Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor

[shadowpt]

If you had read everything existing, you have known that the not open part of the machine is the part motor/generator. It is normal that his system needs a minimum speed to be an OU motor.

That is just not true, if what he says is real then he doesn't need any type of motor.

Have you seen the videos. Have you try to imagine the size of a battery necessary to launch the engine and continue to run this fan.

There are very small and powerfull batteries nowadays.

1) it won't be able to run at a constant speed without diminishing

It has already been proved in their video that the motor starts losing power.

But at the Geneva expo, Yildiz intends to demonstrate the motor running continuously for four days without stopping

Can't wait for that.

What the Yildiz team has made to you that you want prejudice form them?

Nothing at all, just telling how things are, maybe interested investors or buyers (like you)
might appreciate the skeptic observations done by other people. I don't even want to know how many investors have already fall for this kind of scam before and whished they could be warned.

"It is harder to crack a prejudice than an atom." -- Albert Einstein

I can also use quotes but it won't lead anywhere, unless the intent is only to discredit someone's skepticism or beliefs.


"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former" ~Albert Einstein

"But magic can sometimes just be an illusion" ~Javan

"All scams include an enticement for someone to fall for the scam. Without an enticement, no one would fall for a scam. Many times scams are so obvious. Scams always start with an enticement of free money, free vacations, wealth, and power, but they are vague or do not mention specifically how you will get the objects of your desire. This has all the markings of a scam"
("Bread of deceit is sweet to a man; but afterwards his mouth shall be filled with gravel", Call Evil Good – The Lure Of Sweetness At No Cost)

"Half the work that is done in this world is to make things appear what they are not" ~Beadle, E. R.

I really hope I am wrong, I really do but the scam history surrounding these kind of machines show a constant moto. If he has the patent pending for the so "miraculous" bottom half then he shouldn't be worried about showing it, if it is real then it will be approved, if it is not then it is a scam. I will be waiting for the other member review once geneva expo is over.

[DomiChi]

I will stop to answer you because I do not want to help you to propagate rumor or information base on nothing.
When J. Duart says: "it seems to be evident from the achieved results that the invention working principles go beyond a conventional technology based on hidden batteries to supply the necessary energy to run the motor.", sorry, but I am a lot more confident to his temporary conclusion than yours. He has seen the engine and tested it. You, what have you do, apart propagate rumor?
Nederland universities ask more time to give an explanation from where the energy comes from (Zero point?), not to proof the fact that "the invention working principles go beyond a conventional technology based on hidden batteries to supply the necessary energy to run the motor". It is a big step that university takes into account the zero point energy. And for that I am ready to wait, it can be an enormous step for the future, like transistors in the past. Perhaps I am too much positive for you but I prefer propagate that studies are pending in this way, than rumors which can stop Universities credits. You have to look http://youtu.be/1wQ4dSKDWVc. You bad rumors are worth than you think.

When you say "Can't wait for that.", you have to pass the patience test. In my long career I had to wait some projects during 4 years, and it was existing conventional technology. But you certainly miss this experience. If you cannot wait, perhaps can you avoid to gives wrong information. When you spray doubt, even if wrong and unfounded, this doubt will persist. 

You write

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former" ~Albert Einstein

Are you not human? E.T., divinity, avatar ?

You also write

That is just not true, if what he says is real then he doesn't need any type of motor."

Do you know anything about magnetic vortex? His inner rotor is a screw which is going to create magnetic field for other layers. If you have another solution to create a rotating field than with motion, please let we know, I am very interesting.
And we will need electronic and electromagnetism to manage rotation speed. And I prefer that than a brake on shaft.
Do you also say that car engine is a SCAM? They also need to be electricly launch. But I am glad that I can use this SCAM. With a Yildiz to refill the tank it will be better and less SCAM (SCAM by taxes on carrburant).

[AnandAadhar]

  What I am missing here is the simple proof of principle test for this Ylldiz claim. Evolved machines escape control, a simple replicable proof of principle does not. We should always depart from the most simple test possible. So where is the suggestion to set up a test to prove this right... I tried something like Yildiz my own way some time ago, but could not acquire any results. Of course I am an ignorant person in this great science, therefore I failed... but Yildiz is not I suppose, so why doesn't he take care of people willing to prove him right by replication? In order to be credible, people in support of Ylldiz should take care of this question. Saying, 'It only works in this evolved state' or 'Patent claims forbid this' outrules replications, restricts to mere outer controls of his model and makes it all magic. Nor can it tell us how he got this far.... where did he see the light of success shining in his process? Where is his research report if he wants to make some serious science? Maybe he doesn't...

[DomiChi]

why doesn't he take care of people willing to prove him right by replication?

Why, is easy to understand. Give to somebody the way and it is him how will published and copyright the map. Look at that http://www.nuenergy.org/theoretical-self-sustaining-permanent-magnet-motor/. It is now Johnson and Minato how have put patent on another experimenter solution.
You are not allowed to sell something from a patent, but you can build one for you, if you can.
M.Yildiz has in plan to provide kit to make his motor. I will wait for that, because his conception his complex. And it is a kit that he will provide, not like Johnson motor where it is only an costly PDF. In France we have laws to protect us against non working products. And I have just to buy with my credit card to be refund if it is a SCAM. There is different levels of SCAM, yes it can work but you cannot build it yourself is also one (spécial parts, ... like in the saled Johnson PDF).
My short experience with magnetic motor is than even a very small change can make a magnetic wells which can create a non working cause. Then starting with prepare parts will limit that. But it will not be enough, if you look at the patent, M.Yildiz already suggests prefered adjustment.

[DomiChi]

That is just not true, if what he says is real then he doesn't need any type of motor.

Before saying that somebody is a liar, you have to bring proof. Otherwise you are just an Internet troll.
I you do not consider youself to be better than J. Duarte, you have to read http://www.bsmhturk.com/modelling-yildiz-motor.pdf. If you think that you are better, you have to say why?