Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor

[crazycut06]

In one of the videos where the big motor is not running, a man flicked the fan blade with one finger and it moved about 1/4 the rotation counter clockwise, original fan motors rotate clockwise, question is why did the fan move  while it was clamped by the brakes? It should not  ,, with the power they claim you cannot reverse spin the rotor with just a flick of a finger? Just being skeptic of what i see... Any other comments on this?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=DiuwXLU4v_8#t=450s

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Cc

[MileHigh]

Crazycut:

That was a very astute observation on your part.  It makes you wonder if the Yildiz team told Sterling that there was a brake holding back the motor because it always wants to turn.  It certainly doesn't look like that from your observation.  Or did Sterling just assume that the motor always wants to turn after being told there was a brake inside the mechanism?

If one subscribes to the theory that the motor is being powered by batteries, then there is a possible explanation for starting and stopping the motor with a hammer and the alleged braking system.  The possible explanation is that using the hammer is just theatrics to disguise the throwing of an on-off switch.  The hit of the hammer also disguises the sound from the switch.

MileHigh

[TinselKoala]

@crazy: do you mean the action that happens right at 7:34?

That is a standard model airplane "traction" propeller, it is designed to spin counterclockwise viewed from the front and blows air backwards. If it is rotated clockwise it will push the air forwards. The weird part isn't in the direction, but that it moves at all. I too thought that the thing was supposed to be "locked" by whatever starting mechanism is used, but apparently not. But then, the motor is under repair, so who knows if it is actually in running condition in that video.
It's fun to watch them with their little iphone magnetometers, isn't it? Kind of like a couple of children playing house, pretending to bake a cake using paper cups and a cardboard oven.

[Gwandau]

The nice collection of images from the disassembly misses the fact that the motor was not _completely_ disassembled at that demonstration. From what I understand, the entire lower half remained assembled, and only the bits that you see actually in those images were removed and passed around for inspection. Since it's made of identical modules.... that should be sufficient, right? Besides it's nearly time for lunch and Yildiz has a plane to catch....etc etc etc. Nobody, or at least nobody who is talking, perhaps not even Duarte, has actually seen the _whole thing_ disassembled. If you doubt this... why, if it was taken apart at Delft or Eindhoven, did Yildiz have to go hide in a closet for twenty minutes before being able to start it the first time at this demo? After all--- we've already seen the parts, right?
Right.

@ TinselKoala,

Posting the images was solely material of intellectual interest for those in this thread who have decided do consider the Yildiz PM motor as no scam, you are perfectly aware that there are people here in this thread representing a quite different opinion than you and the dedicated sceptiscists.

As for myself, as I have said before, I want to keep an open mind until validation in any direction is confirmed, which means that I and several other members here are totally at ease with an objective standpoint, saying neither yes or no.

Keep in mind that your input is nothing more than your own personal opinion, no matter what experiences may back you up.

And be so kind to avoid interpreting everything deviating from your own belief posted here as intentions to prove anything valid.
Those of us preferring the open minded approach does really not enjoy being harassed as blind believers.

Soo please get off our backs and let those of us who wants extrapolate any possible theories that may be the effective cause behind a hypothetically functioning PM motor.

Thank you.

[markdansie]

Thank you TK
I will in the future do full disclosure on myself.
In Mr Wayne's case he did provide an airfare when I visited on some occasions not all.
However no consulting fees were paid and in my visits I was on my own time or my companies time.
This has never influenced me as in some cases the inventors do pay for me, or the owner of the technology.
I have to be diligent that people do not use me for an endorsement (unless I actually do)
I have always said in this case it is not validated till I see it self running for two days, but there were enough engineers and others and some evidence suggesting it was a possibility. To date my condition has not been met.
However I am happy to be corrected by you and others, I am far from perfect but I do not seek public donations or crowd funding.
i guess I have done a lot of miles and busted a lot of technologies and to be honest it gets depressing after a while seeing 100% failure rate. It has cost me personally a lot of money for little or no return (like many of the good experimenters out there)
So I may have not met your high standards or others in this case, and willing to accept the criticism you dished out.
Most who know and met me in person know I am only interested in seeking the truth, and I rely on people far more qualified than I ever hope to be.
I hold you in High Regard TK you are one of the brightest mis guided genius I have ever come across.
Kind Regards
PS Yiltidz is a fake, and a scam artist and Sterling is guilty by association
Mark