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Overunity Machines Forum



Harness Energy gained from a falling weight

Started by Alexioco, March 15, 2010, 11:24:59 AM

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Cloxxki

@Dr:
3.65m wheel > rim length : 11.46m > half rim = 5.73m
26rpm > 2.3s per rotation > 1.15s per half rotation
g = 9.8m/s²
Vertical drop in first second : 4.9m

x = 1/2 g*t²
t² = 1.33
x = 6.48m

Very rough quick uneducated calcs of course, but the falling weight does catch up I think.

Alexioco

Quote from: Dr on June 09, 2010, 10:53:43 PM
Hi Alex: What about the rotation of your wheel, lets say its 12 ft. dia and turning at 26 rpm, even a weight in free fall cant keep with that kind of rim speed, by the time the weight drops, the bottom of the wheel is now over at 9 or 10, just my 2 cents!!

The weights accelerate the wheel, the wheel does not accelrate the weights.

Alex
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Cloxxki

I am now visualizing hammer slung as clock dials.
They fall parallel, yet the one will at 6:00 hit a lever (with leverage) pressing onto the other hammer close to the axle, causing it to transfer nergy to it. The donor weight loses momentum, but might still make it up a it. A one-way clutch could keep it in place, or it could swing back at a reduced hammer hold length, to reach 6:00 alongside the other weight again, and the roles are reversed.
I am failing to see the gain aspect though.

I have not been able to get the idea out of my mind that the gain must come from non-lineair fomulae governing the movements of the weights. Weight need to save time, or exploit a second or third power component of a formula.

Dr

@ Cloxxie & Alex:  My point being that a free falling weight will NEVER hit at 6 O clock unless your wheel is standing still! :)

Alexioco

Here is the design

Forget about it perpetuating for the moment, this is how i'm trying to cause 1 of the weights to fly up to the axle at 6 o clock.

Both weights fall clockwise from the top to the bottom. At 6 o clock the outer weight swings hitting the rim out pulling the inner weight up into the axle, they are both the same weight, the weight travels up to the axle faster and further than the outer weight. The energy to do this is gained from the drop. This then allows the outer weight to make to up and over at the top at 12 o clock, the then re tune the weights, a spring is needed which i omitted for now as i want to discuss the bottom part...

Alex

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