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The problem with making a magnet motor work!!!

Started by jacko, March 22, 2010, 02:36:14 PM

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mscoffman

Quote from: jacko on March 22, 2010, 05:44:26 PM

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Every magnet in a magnet motor must always be in motion. This does away with the so called sticky spot!!
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How do we do this? Well all things that are round must go round. The field of every magnet is round. like all things in nature. Nature does not do stright lines. Everything goes ROUND! Ok by now I'm probably losing readers, who think this is about as interesting as watching paint dry, or grass grow. For a magnet motor to work, all the magnets there in, MUST be in contact at the point of max power at all times. It will not work any other way.


a) While you reduce the sticky spot's power...it is still there slightly sapping of energy
you've overcome by increasing the momentum. Unless you increased the energy
somewhere else that wheel is going to spin down...I'll be listening/watching with
interest.

:S:MarkSCoffman

mike444

Well,
Quote from: jacko on March 22, 2010, 02:36:14 PM
The problem to making any magnet motor is to get past the sticky spot. As you all know that's the point where the magnet or magnets are pulling more than pushing,or visa verse!!! With most designs they use some outside influence to overcome this problem. OK, this may help, but they will never be able to release the full power that is there to be found,or used. If a magnet motor can't run freely then we can never get full power. So how do you solve this problem???? Well I think it can be solved by having no sticky spot. A magnet motor will only be taken notice of when it runs and is able to give useable power. Lets forget about making a motor that generates power and just think about a power source that can be used to turn a generator. We have  loads of generators, we only need a way to turn them.So if you think magnets and getting everything turning then you're going down the right road.....

Well, that's what I've proposed here:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=9231.0

Low-Q

Quote from: jacko on March 22, 2010, 02:36:14 PM
The problem to making any magnet motor is to get past the sticky spot. As you all know that's the point where the magnet or magnets are pulling more than pushing,or visa verse!!! With most designs they use some outside influence to overcome this problem. OK, this may help, but they will never be able to release the full power that is there to be found,or used. If a magnet motor can't run freely then we can never get full power. So how do you solve this problem???? Well I think it can be solved by having no sticky spot. A magnet motor will only be taken notice of when it runs and is able to give useable power. Lets forget about making a motor that generates power and just think about a power source that can be used to turn a generator. We have  loads of generators, we only need a way to turn them.So if you think magnets and getting everything turning then you're going down the right road.....
With or without sticky spots the magnet motor wouldn't work.

The sticky spot in an electric motor is the reason why the rotor will turn. With no sticky spot (Attraction to one or more areas), there will be no place for the magnet to go. However, the polatiry of the electromagnet in the rotor (or stator) will switch into repelling mode when the magnet has passed. This switching is not possible with permanentmagnets unless you turn the magnet manually. But then you must use the same energy to turn the magnet into repelling mode, as the energy you gain while the rotor- and stator magnet is approaching eachother.

There is no known way around this problem. Adding more complexity into the system will not help, because the whole construction will still rely on mechanical and passive components.

There might be other approaches which might work, but leaving a sticky spot out of the motor will per definition not help.

Vidar

clint

I have designed a working magnet/perpetual device, I am so excited to share with the world soon.  I have never seen or even heard of such a device.

I have used gravity to avoid the "sticky spot" at the end/begining of the loop.  Weight+Gravity has overcome the power of the sticky spot and allows the machine to restart each cycle and my machine has been running since Christmas with no problems.   Soon the whole world will see and have hope.  Sorry I can't show you now :(   It is eating me up inside so bad, that I can't just reveal this to the world.   

I have used the V Gate design with help from weight of magnet+gravity to overcome this spot.  In process of making a bigger model now hopefully will be able to post a video soon showing some of my design in action.  Remember my name and you will see how real this is soon.

Airstriker

Quote from: clint on January 03, 2012, 04:08:05 AM
I have designed a working magnet/perpetual device, I am so excited to share with the world soon.  I have never seen or even heard of such a device.

I have used gravity to avoid the "sticky spot" at the end/begining of the loop.  Weight+Gravity has overcome the power of the sticky spot and allows the machine to restart each cycle and my machine has been running since Christmas with no problems.   Soon the whole world will see and have hope.  Sorry I can't show you now :(   It is eating me up inside so bad, that I can't just reveal this to the world.   

I have used the V Gate design with help from weight of magnet+gravity to overcome this spot.  In process of making a bigger model now hopefully will be able to post a video soon showing some of my design in action.  Remember my name and you will see how real this is soon.

Will you open source or go the patent way? Either way, good luck ;)