magnet-gravity wheel

[FreeEnergy]

see picture (you must be logged in to see attached picture).

* steel arms with wheels runs on track attached to squared wheel
* one arm is always attracted to magnet and tilts the wheel thereby moving other arms making one side heavier?


* * * * * update 4-12-07: since i've been using working model 2d i have found where the dead point of this wheel is. the original picture is all wrong. see http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,894.msg28133.html#msg28133

[Omnibus]

I don?t see why it won?t work. Suppose we put a pretty strong magnet and start as is shown in the picture, then the magnet will attract the steel plate on the right-hand side. Now if top plate was fixed rotation will stop at sticky point of the magnet. Top plate, however, slides and adds it?s weight as well as kinetic energy to the right-hand side thus pushing the lower plate out of the sticky point.

The problem of the magnetic motors has always been how to overcome the sticky point, how to cease the action of the magnetic field at that point so that the rotor can keep turning. One possible way is to take away the magnet mechanically, as Torbay does. Another way is to remove the object  attracted by the magnet ? this is what SMOT does using gravity to remove the object. Here it is also gravity which helps get the attracted plate out of the way of main magnetic forces of attraction and thus enables the rotor to turn unobstructed.

This is what appears at first glance. The devil is in the details, however. It?s interesting to do a more precise assessment of the forces acting on the levers. Best to try to make a working model. Do you have a working model, FreeEnergy?


P.S. With Wesley Snyder's motor it's a different story. If it really works when left untouched, it would be a pure magnetic motor without additional mechanical help or help from gravity. Unless the wobbling of the rotor axis isn't that mechanical/gravity help. Help from gravity or through clever construction is OK, though, if the rotor keeps turning by itself, without putting in energy, it would be a self-sustaining device.

[FreeEnergy]

hey thanks for the input.
no i dont have a working model yet.
we shall see how things turn out.

[Omnibus]

That shouldn't be difficult to make. It's good to do some modeling before that, however, to shorten the process of choosing the right conditions (weight of plates, strength of magnet and so on). Probably Jason can help.

This reminds me of the proposal by Darlight of a motor utilizing hydrostatic and gravity forces in one of the previous threads.

[FreeEnergy]

This reminds me of the proposal by Darlight of a motor utilizing hydrostatic and gravity forces in one of the previous threads.

yes it is where i got my idea from