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GENERATOR- YOU DO THE IN/OUT POWER MATH

Started by magnetman12003, April 19, 2010, 09:16:15 AM

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Rapadura

Quote from: DeepCut on April 23, 2010, 03:59:23 PM
But i'm loving it. I hope we don't discover free energy because then i'd have nothing to do in my spare time ;+}


Gary.

I don't know why, but I feel that you are very close to dicover something very very impressive... And if you do it, please share with us. If you see a selfrunning overunity (or "overdouble")  device spinning right before your eyes without any external energy source, please don't have a heart attack because of the emotion: make a video of it and put on YouTube!

magnetman12003

[A author=Bruce_TPU link=topic=9076.msg238773#msg238773 date=1272065347]
Hi Tom,

You can easily add the second coil to where the coils can be seperated!  Here is an idea... Take and measure the length diameter you need, to "slip" at 90 degrees over your existing pu coil..  Measure out some Card Stock to the width and length you need to make your desired bobbin.  Cut out several, identical, and glue one on top of another, to get the stiffness you desire for coil form.  Next, simply spray with some good spray adhesive, and then wind your magnet wire (or stranded wire as I prefer in this case) around the form.  At the end of the first row, use wax to start next row, spray again an wind second layer.  Continue this for as many layers as you want.  Slip coil on at 90 degrees and you are good to go!  If it only puts out 1/2 as much power as your other coil, that is okay, you are still up in power output by 50% !!!   ;)

Cheers,

Bruce
[/quote]

Thanks Bruce,

I will do that because I already have a extra coil with wire on it and I can use the wire on it to do the wrap around like you stated. Tom

DeepCut

Liking that idea Bruce, i'm sick of hand-winding 800 turns around plastic piping !

OK, test results.

System components :

Drive coil/circuit: a la Bedini, no relay. Drive component unimportant since could be pulse generator.
Induction Coil : 0.25mm @ 61.1 ohms. No second coil at this time.
Magnet : Neo @ 6,100 gauss.
Full wave bridge rectifier, shop-bought, maximum reverse-current is 10A per diode.
Potentiometer : 10k linear, 3 terminal.

Starting condition :

Input : 12.54VDC @ 0.114A = 1.42956W
Output (rectified) : 40.3VDC @ 0.0085A = 0.34255W
Pot resistance : 0 ohms

Peak performance :

Input : 12.54VDC @ 0.144A = 1.80576W
Output (rectified) : 23.0VDC @ 0.020A = 0.46W
Pot resistance : 7.65 ohms

Bear in mind that Tom has much more wire on his induction coil than i do, although i suppose there is a limit to the length of the induction wire before a critical threshold is reached.

So we should expect better results with Tom's setup.


Gary.










Gary.



Bruce_TPU

Quote from: DeepCut on April 23, 2010, 08:31:52 PM
Liking that idea Bruce, i'm sick of hand-winding 800 turns around plastic piping !

OK, test results.

System components :

Drive coil/circuit: a la Bedini, no relay. Drive component unimportant since could be pulse generator.
Induction Coil : 0.25mm @ 61.1 ohms. No second coil at this time.
Magnet : Neo @ 6,100 gauss.
Full wave bridge rectifier, shop-bought, maximum reverse-current is 10A per diode.
Potentiometer : 10k linear, 3 terminal.

Starting condition :

Input : 12.54VDC @ 0.114A = 1.42956W
Output (rectified) : 40.3VDC @ 0.0085A = 0.34255W
Pot resistance : 0 ohms

Peak performance :

Input : 12.54VDC @ 0.144A = 1.80576W
Output (rectified) : 23.0VDC @ 0.020A = 0.46W
Pot resistance : 7.65 ohms

Bear in mind that Tom has much more wire on his induction coil than i do, although i suppose there is a limit to the length of the induction wire before a critical threshold is reached.

So we should expect better results with Tom's setup.


Gary.










Gary.

Good Job Gary,

Don't be discouraged, just keep on adding and refining!  But the main thing is that your measurments are accurate!  You are having fun and learning alot..., try a second coil and figure out ways to lessen your input power.

Cheers,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

DeepCut

Cheers Bruce mate :)

Ideas for improvement :


Increase magnetic flux.

Ceramic bearings to reduce axle friction.

Pulse generator instead of bedini circuit, would cut input power costs down.

Increase number of windings in induction coil. *EDIT* and add a second coil ! *EDIT*

Change material of induction coil, silver-coated ?


Gary.