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GENERATOR- YOU DO THE IN/OUT POWER MATH

Started by magnetman12003, April 19, 2010, 09:16:15 AM

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magnetman12003

#70
April 25, 2010, 11:59:01 AM
Quote from: Rapadura link=topic=9076.msg238934#msg238934 A=1272199831
@magnetman12003: Are you going to use a rectifier to have DC output in this experiment?

I will figure out both AC and rectified DC Power.

DeepCut

#71
May 05, 2010, 07:00:53 PM
I tidied up the circuit by improving the contacts and mounting in a project box, my first one it's great fun !

Also changed height of coil, it wasn't dead-centre vertically before.

Also using 100k resistor rather than pot as a load.


System components :

Drive circuit: Bedini, no JonnyDavro relay. Using 10k, 3-contact linear pot.
Drive coil : Bifilar, single coil.
               Trigger wire : 0.25mm.
               Induction wire : 0.28mm.
Magnet : Neo @ 6,100 gauss.
Full wave bridge rectifier, shop-bought, maximum reverse-current is 10A per diode.

Load resistor : 100k

Resistance of Bedini pot : ~1200

Peak performance result :

Input : 9.43 VDC @ 0.075 A = 0.70725 W
Output (rectified) : 41.5 VDC @ 0.035 A = 1.4525 W

Apparent COP = 2.053729232944503 ...

I ran the test 10 times and all results were similar, these are average figures.

*EDIT* What's an easy way of switching between the PSU and the rectified output ? Can i just connect the output to where the input goes to begin with or will that blow my house up lol ? *EDIT*



Bruce_TPU

#72
May 05, 2010, 07:59:29 PM
Quote from: DeepCut on May 05, 2010, 07:00:53 PM
I tidied up the circuit by improving the contacts and mounting in a project box, my first one it's great fun !

Also changed height of coil, it wasn't dead-centre vertically before.

Also using 100k resistor rather than pot as a load.


System components :

Drive circuit: Bedini, no JonnyDavro relay. Using 10k, 3-contact linear pot.
Drive coil : Bifilar, single coil.
               Trigger wire : 0.25mm.
               Induction wire : 0.28mm.
Magnet : Neo @ 6,100 gauss.
Full wave bridge rectifier, shop-bought, maximum reverse-current is 10A per diode.

Load resistor : 100k

Resistance of Bedini pot : ~1200

Peak performance result :

Input : 9.43 VDC @ 0.075 A = 0.70725 W
Output (rectified) : 41.5 VDC @ 0.035 A = 1.4525 W

Apparent COP = 2.053729232944503 ...

I ran the test 10 times and all results were similar, these are average figures.

*EDIT* What's an easy way of switching between the PSU and the rectified output ? Can i just connect the output to where the input goes to begin with or will that blow my house up lol ? *EDIT*

Try using a DPDT (double pole double throw) switch.  When you throw the dpdt, the psu turns off and the output becomes the input.  If it keeps running, time and film it.  Put the set up on a glass table, or or glass top of some type when filming.

Good Luck!

Cheers,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

DeepCut

#73
May 05, 2010, 08:02:07 PM
OK thx will do.

e2matrix

#74
May 05, 2010, 10:25:58 PM
Nice work there Deepcut.  If you want to really get a fast switchover on the input (from the output) I'd suggest a double pole double throw relay if you happen to have one around.  It would normally get it done faster than a switch (depending somewhat on the switch).  On the other hand if your motor tends to keep up the RPM fairly well for a couple seconds after being switched off then it may not make any difference using a relay over a regular DPDT switch.  Of course having a disconnect somewhere in the setup would be advised just in case it does starting going faster thus producing more power and looping into higher speed etc. to self destruct mode.   We can all hope you see that problem at least  ;D  so just have a way to unplug or turn off if you get lucky. 
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