Breakthrough with the Anton HHO cell !

[haithar]

do you have a link to that theory?

[flavian]

I am glad someone managed to go one step further.

I managed to obtain 500W from my generator 2 years ago: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJLgv20LEF8

I was using 2000W in order to do this with my cell because my engine needed 14LPm in order to run. The engine was not timing adjusted, it actually had no modifications at all. See video description.

Searching for resonance on my cells I stopped playing with the generator, but it is so great that someone did it.

[vrand]

I am glad someone managed to go one step further.

I managed to obtain 500W from my generator 2 years ago: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJLgv20LEF8

I was using 2000W in order to do this with my cell because my engine needed 14LPm in order to run. The engine was not timing adjusted, it actually had no modifications at all. See video description.

Searching for resonance on my cells I stopped playing with the generator, but it is so great that someone did it.

Hi flavian,
Thank you for sharing your HHO work!

Yes, it is very exciting to see someone finally running an engine on water while powering the cells and loads. Since the 1970's-1980's there were reports of Yull Brown running cars in Australia using his series cell "Brown's Gas" electrolyzer design. But no one figured out how he did it all these years.

It looks like the Anton cell designers got it right the first time. 

For those that are unfamiliar about the Bob Boyce series cell design read on.  For those that understand the Boyce design can skip to the bottom.

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The Bob Boyce 101 cell design is basically the resonance reaction of his OU toroidal transformer, that Boyce says taps into the Tesla Longitudinal Energy that his toroid makes from his PWM pulses, that then goes to his 101 cell where it resonants the 101 plates that then converts the toroid Longitudinal energy into OU gas production in his cell.

To date, very few experimenters got it working in the resonant mode of operation, and of the ones that did hit the resonance reaction did not publish their results. So most of the researchers are running their Boyce cell using DC, just like Dr. Rhodes & Yull Brown designs, to makes lots of hydroxy gas (14 LPM) but not enough to run an engine for very long periods of time. 

Boyce used 1/8" plate spacing because when his cell goes into resonance the amount of gas generated was huge and actually pushes the water out of the cells. Reports of 30-50 LPM confirmed this. So in order to keep the water in the cell and not being thrown out a 1/8" cell spacings was used and the water level was set to 1/2 full. 

Researchers also found that it was difficult to keep and hold on to resonance partially due to the water being thrown out of the cells, as well as temperature and pressure changes .  These all changed the cells resonant frequency and you now needed to find the new resonant frequency manually as there were no feedback circuit loops to automatically track to the resonant frequency.

Very precise cell design, toroidal windings and special PWM was needed to make the Boyce cell to work. All this costs added up to close to $3500-4000.

The 101 cell box:
The Ed Holdgate cell box, machine precision made to 10,000th of an inch, for the exacting equal 1/8" spacing and to fit exactly the 101- 16ga 316L stainless steel plates, costs close to $1800.

The special silver coated solid copper wire wrapped equally spaced preciously on the special made 6" high frequency toroidal core from Mircometals had to be hand wrapped. Not many researchers are experts on hand winding toroidal cores.  Automated machine attempts to wind the cores have not worked to date. Bees wax was used to encase the primary and secondary windings.

The Pulse Width Modulation (PWM) boards can be bought off the shelf from "Hydrogen Garage".

The 101- 316L stainless steel plates had to be "conditioned" for weeks. (See the Free Energy D9 document). Using the more expensive 317L cuts the conditioning process down to a day.  The plates also have to be laser cut so as to be perfectly flat with no kerfed edges typical of sheared cuts. 

In other words, doing the latest and greatest series cell design by Boyce was an expensive, time consuming, and required precision beyond the typical researcher that is capable of performing in his garage work shop. And after all the above, the chances of success was unknown because of the multitude of these parts that all needed to work together, perfectly, to achieve the conversion of the OU toroid Longitudinal energy to the creation of the OU hydroxy gas.

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So now we have the Anton cell design that can run an engine.

Compared to building a series cell 101 plate design of the typical "Brown's Gas" electrolyzer or the more advanced Bob Boyce unit (see above), the Anton design is a VERY simple.   

There looks to be only one critical design component, the 1 mm cell spacing.  Thats it!

It is so simple they show a video of assembling the whole unit in less than a day!  Cake walk city 

Spaß / Fun with a HHO Anton Drycell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IBL_gfmj04

It looks scalable, both in the individual plate sizes as well as the number of plates you can stack. They used 21 plates (3 X 7 cell units) to create 6 LPM to run a 2.5 HP genset for 1000 watts output. Technically one could build a single 21 plate unit to save materials.  Or even go to 101 plates design to fuel larger engines. The sky is the limit   

Why does it work?
No one knows at this time. Their HHO gas needs to be analyzed in a laboratory.  A mass spectrometer would really help. The engine exhaust should also be analyzed to see what is happening inside the combustion chamber.

One theory (see my posts above) is the cell spacing needs to be 1 mm to create this "special gas", Dr. Moray calls it "charged water clusters," tapping ZPE to then be able to run an engine.  When using the Boyce design in the DC mode, the 1/8" spacing (3.175 mm), is 3 X larger, and is actually not the right spacing for creating this "special gas".

Whole new industries could be built around HHO as a fuel.  Check out Roy MCalister's videos on running hydrogen in engines. Roy jokingly says that 10,000 millionaires could be created EACH WEEK from converting our cars and homes to running on HHO & hydrogen 

American Hydrogen Association
http://www.clean-air.org/

Exciting times ahead

Regards, Mike R.

[flavian]

I used a simple boyce cell, built by me without any help from Ed Holgate or anyone because I'm from Europe. I used it without resonance so far and I believe OU might work with that also.

Anton cells use 900W in order to get 6 LPM wich translates to about 150W per LPM.

My Boyce cell uses 2000W in order to get 14LPM with translates to about 140W per LPM.

So the numbers are almost the same. I'm not sure the 3mm vs 1mm spacing between the plates is the issue. Anton had a 1000W generator with timing adjustments, mine was a 2000W generator without any modifications. But it worked, it just needed more gas.

Sure, a dry cell helps especially if you use it in your car because it is easier to build and install without problems. I'm not sure however that it produces better quality gas compared to other designs. In order to produce monoatomic hydrogen I believe resonance is still needed.

[Sente]

hallo


sorry for german,

mit Anton ist doch noch viel mehr möglich:

nicht immer an auto denken, anton kann viel mehr: Kondensator, Batterie, Brennstoffzelle, hho-zelle.
einfach mal weiter denken, anton ist fertig als baukasten und kann nach belieben umgebaut oder erweitert werden, desweiteren ist es einfacher ein stationären motor (z.b. Bhkw) mit konstanten drehzahlen mit gas zu betreiben als ein automotor mit wechselden drehzahlen.

und ich lese hier viel, sehe aber eher wenig, hier sind 23t  user im forum und anscheinend auch einige zellen, aber wie viel brenner oder andre spielereien sind zu sehen?  keine ahnung  10-20 ?  oder doch mehr, hier wird auch viel diskutiert und an elektronik geschraubt aber nicht viel mit HHO, GEEt,SPAD,G+P,A.V.E.C, ich sehe nicht viel, alle reden und suchen und wenn sies gefunden haben suchen sie was neues, leute baut was zusammen und redet nicht nur drüber, wenns 5 leute in europa und vielleicht 100 auf der welt machen wird das nichts, der wandel muss jetzt mal langsam eingeleitet werden.

wir in deutschland haben doch viel mehr probleme zu lösen als andre länder wo nicht nachgefragt wird ob das erlaubt ist.


mfg


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