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Breakthrough with the Anton HHO cell !

Started by hartiberlin, April 25, 2010, 02:33:30 AM

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raburgeson

Are they using ambient air for chamber expansion? Are they trying to use a sealed mixture? Could the running away from the engine possibly cause by to much fuel/air mixture? Is the engine timing driven by the cam or the crankshaft? Looks like the crankshaft. It might help to run it by the camshaft and retard both at the same time with a single control. Would the system work better with a two stroke engine? You don't have to have overunity at this point to make the world better. Just something that beats the price at the pump 2:1 would be a godsend. Specially a system that does not pollute. So if you have to charge an extra battery once a week. Is it capable of running a week on one car battery? At this point we have to look at close enough systems also. Might have enough power to run a small motorcycle? I wonder if custom port timing on a 2 stroke engine would help. It would take some major experimenting but it might help. The Japanese were experts at this and perfected it for gasoline in the 350 Yamaha engine. The conversion of a gasoline engine because they exist has not been giving positive results. You have to face it that Gasoline engines aren't very efficient even when they are burning gasoline.

hartiberlin

Quote from: mogli on August 13, 2010, 03:19:05 AM

New Video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSe943wkUfg

Great Video Valentin !

Now this proves, that HHO alone can run in a self closed loop system.

Now, if you can still power the few Watts for your ignition coil also from
the output of the generator that would be the final proof, that the system
works on its own energy just using water.

Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

markdansie

Hi
it has not been independently verified ..an exhaust gas analysis is needed. I do wish them well but was there any hydrocarbons in the water?
Mark

bolt

You will be able to detect hydrocarbons in the exhaust as the engine requires 4 stroke crankcase oil. Tiny amounts will be traceable as it lubes the engine. BUT this is NOT the source of the energy.

HHO recombination undergoes transformations due to valance electron binding regardless of the chemical reactions taking place it IS for all intents an Electron mitigating process and ambient energy is added to the recomposition back to water. This aspect is almost ALWAYS left out of Faraday equations where typical net energy gain for HHO often has a COP>3! While pulsed resonance electrolysis will increase the nett energy gain further still its NOT required to do so to realize OU. In fact conventional electrolysis can and does already yield excess energy with ICE and actually causes the ICE to run much colder than with gasoline mix or pure browns gas. To copy what i wrote elsewhere about this..

This is why in the looper for argument set some numbers and say they need 1kw
to break the water to HHO. This yields potential energy of of least 3kw upon
recombination. 1kW will be used to run the engine although a lot will go as heat
and can be recovered.

2kw will used to run generator which is also only 75% efficient but it will generate 1500 watts nett and recover the 1kw required to run the cell. Some 500 watts OU are left in the
system. Its enough to run a 500 watt flood lamp. Despite ALL the losses there is
enough OU to make it work.

This is why even when using tiny amounts in a car engine it has a great effect
on the fuel economy. Its not just about making a clean burn it adds energy at
the point of recombination to water far beyond that of conventional electrolysis
took to break it apart. If you add typical 3kw of real RE energy to a car engine
AND increase performance through a better burn of carbon products raising
efficiency from 23% to 29% it could easy result in an extra 5kw - 10kw of extra
power on the wheels which is about 10% of typical 100Kw car. Its enough to turn
on a tiny HHO cell and feel the extra KICK on the engine or increase mileage by
30-50% at steady 50-60MPH To fully realize these gains requires the map chip or oxygen sensors "lifting" to prevent excess fuel usage.

Youtube probably has some hundreds if not thousands of testimonies to this fact. After all anyone with some sense can see something special is happening far beyond the 500 watts of DC going into the cells. With fuel cost rising again at alarming rates semi truck drives with HHO twin stacks are getting from 6 - 8 mpg increased to 10 - 14 MPG. This represents a fuel saving of some $25,000 per year.

NinaZor

Wow. I was just pointed to these boards to look at some cool engines, but if these videos are for real, I might actually dare to hope about hydrogen power in my lifetime!