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Overunity Machines Forum



Breakthrough with the Anton HHO cell !

Started by hartiberlin, April 25, 2010, 02:33:30 AM

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Omnibus

Stefan,

Have they studied the contents of the gas through some sort of spectroscopy? Is it purely hydrogen and oxygen? I guess that would be the most favorable. But then, again, if the Faraday's law is obeyed I don't see how this can occur even if the electrolysis is carried out reversibly (at delta G, the Gibbs free energy, not to be confused with the free energy we're discussing here, that is, without overvoltage). What are they saying in the video about the volume of the produced gas? Does it correspond strictly to the expected according to Faraday's law -- they know the current for the duration of the experiment and when integrating it over time that will give the coulombs which have to correspond strictly to the volume of gas obtained (recall 22.4L of (ideal) gas at STP correspond to 1 mole)?

hartiberlin

More translations from Oliver´s postings:


The ignition, we had to operate with a small 220 Volts to 12 Volts AC/DC power adapter.
As the generator has a 12 Volts output also, we could use this and use
a 12 Volt battery as a buffer for the ignition circuit supply.


To run it, we had to start gas production in advance from the grid.

While I plugged in the lamps and the drill,
Valentin had to regulate the amount of air,
so that the engine was not throtteling nor dying.

At this point, it only makes limited sense,
to continue with this this clunker and cheapo motor-generator.

Everything we must now again do from scratch and repeat again using the correct materials
and a better motor-generator, so to replicate and improve it.

This Chinese power generator is probably at its best
only 15% efficient with its intended operation with normal carburetor and normal gasoline fuel,
so its efficiency just lacks..

But yes. It is a  "breakthrough" .
because so far nobody has yet demonstrated as far as I know
a motor-generator, that was loaded with its
maximum rating power of the  generator (1kW in this case).

The fact that we then could also supply the Anton cells so that
it got a selfrunning system
was just a crazy experiment,
and the result has surprised us even ourself very much
and obviously now motivated us very strongly to continue !


Beautiful Sunday to you all:)
Oliver
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

Omnibus

I don't understand this:

QuoteIt is a  "breakthrough" .
because so far nobody has yet demonstrated as far as I know
a motor-generator, that was loaded with its
maximum rating power of the  generator (1kW in this case).

What do they claim they have achieved?

hartiberlin

The last message from Oliver for today translated into proper english:

We just wanted finally to connect just a bigger load to the generator and see
what will come out of it.

And just to put the AC/DC power supply which powers the ANTON cells as the load onto the
generator was of course the most logical use.

But we were very suprised, that it worked so well and
now have even ourself to figure it out why this worked so well right away ..
;D

We even didn´t just wanted OU, but search for a better alternative energy method and efficiency..

There are some strange effects that we need to understand ourselves  first:

Sometimes the gas smells slightly of ammonia,
although no such chemical are in play.

We only fill up Anton only half  full with electrolyte
so that more dense water can be  decomposed.

The Bubbler is more cold than warm.

ANTON itself is only lukewarm.

Even after a very short operation "Anton" sucks 500ml water from the bubbler,
which, according to Darmstadt University of Technology can be a reason that it has
a high concentration of "nascent hydrogen" in it.

Probably we made something right by mistake or by the first time. !?
;D
So far we have only done that, what other people have talked about for years...


The ones who wants to a temperature measurements, please send us a thermal camera.

The ones who want to see the loud monster run for hours without to annoy the
other neighbors should bribe the landlord,
because we do it in a regular office with normal office neighbors
and they need to focus onto their work.

The neighbors are not interested in a water motor when the house rumbles.
>:(

Frankly, we actually don´t care what computer users think
that never have held a screwdriver in their hands....
;D

Except for the last changes we have from the beginning documented everything here in the german overunity.de forum
and later also on YouTube.

Enough documented , so that others can follow.

We are even still amazed , that the engine runs indoors at all just with water and on HHO gas
and has no emissions other than hot air and a few dropplets of water.. !

It is all  open source and we need to move on and others
need to build up on it, so we hope that others will help us and
we will move on together.

So long, Oliver.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

Omnibus

No, not clear at all. The last text doesn't make it clearer either. Also, they say it's an open source project bit actually it isn't. What is the construction of the electrolysis cell exactly? What exact stainless steel are the electrodes made from? How were they prepared. And, again, what is the exact claim? Using an electrolysis cell as a load of a generator or seeing a motor of this kind work on a mixture of hydrogen and oxygen, if that's what's claimed, as it appears from the text, doesn't seem too much of an achievement. Something is missing. Too many question for someone to start replicating it.