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Breakthrough with the Anton HHO cell !

Started by hartiberlin, April 25, 2010, 02:33:30 AM

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hartiberlin

Quote from: billmehess on April 25, 2010, 03:53:33 PM
What is a Anton cell? What does it do and what is its configuration. Stephan you say they power them with the power supply... Wait a minute if the power supply is producing enough energy for the cell to produce 6 liters per min of HHO  this is all meaningless.
What is the voltage and amperage from the power supply. With enough amperage any amount of HHO can be produce to run anything. I am sure I am missing something here
so please all you good people out there please enlighten me.

Hi Bill,
the Anton cell is just a optimized electrolyser cell.

See:

http://anton-shop.com

but the sales form is not working properly in this moment
and they first to have order more new plates I was told today.

Also they are looking for some company to help
them with the distribution,
cause these 2 mens can´t do it all alone.

So it is basically 3 Anton cells working together to
produce arround 6 Liters of HHO gas per minute with about 800 to
900 Watts of electrical input power and the
motor -generator runs from the HHO gas mixed with air
and then the generator part of it produces around 1000 Watts,
so the 220 Volts to 36 Volts AC to DC power supply you see on the table
has enough juice to generate the power to make the electrolysis happen
in the Anton cells.

SO it is a selfrunning system only needing a bit of water from time to time.

Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

Omnibus

Quote from: Rapadura on April 25, 2010, 04:00:51 PM
From the previous test, man! They were testing the device just a few minutes ago, with the 1000 watt load.

Tha HHO (whatever that is) that would be in the tubes from the previous test would have also required energy to have been produced. That isn't freely floating around just like that. So, you have spent energy to produce that purported HHO and you use it further to produce even more which would close the cycle. Let alone that if that's hydrogen, that cannot be contained in the tubes at all. The problems with hydrogen leakage are notorious. No, HHO in the tubes isn't the problem. The problem may be in, say, unaccounted for spending of anode (as any electrolytic cell would do) or some other chemical process supplying the additional energy which appears as excess energy. It has to be shown that the electrodes used are fully recoverable and don't change at all during the process.

hartiberlin

Here are 2 more videos which
show exactly the modification of this
cheap chinese motor-generator to get it to
run on HHO-air mix.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hy88V4CWgJ0

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=172BBu1NL0g

You need to see these 2 videos to really understand it all !

Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

hartiberlin

Quote from: Omnibus on April 25, 2010, 04:13:29 PM
Tha HHO (whatever that is) that would be in the tubes from the prvious test would have also required energy to have been produced. That isn't freely floating around just like that. So, you have spent energy to produce that purported HHO and you use it furthyer to produce even more which would close the cycle. Let alone that if that's hydrogen, that cannot be contained in the tubes at all. The problems with hydrogen leakage are notorious. No, HHO in the tubes isn't the problem. The problem may be in, say, unaccounted for spending of anode (as any electrolytic cell would do) or some other chemical process supplying the additional energy which appears as excess energy. It has to be shown that the electrodes used are fully recoverable and don't change at all during the process.

Hi Omnibus,
the elctrodes are really stable, they don´t corrode...
I have visited Oliver last year and he has shown me a few examples..
Surely you need to use the right amount of KOH only and only
destilled water with it, so these stainless steel plates don´t corrode...
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

Rapadura

Quote from: Omnibus on April 25, 2010, 04:13:29 PM
Tha HHO (whatever that is) that would be in the tubes from the previous test would have also required energy to have been produced. That isn't freely floating around just like that. So, you have spent energy to produce that purported HHO and you use it further to produce even more which would close the cycle. Let alone that if that's hydrogen, that cannot be contained in the tubes at all. The problems with hydrogen leakage are notorious. No, HHO in the tubes isn't the problem. The problem may be in, say, unaccounted for spending of anode (as any electrolytic cell would do) or some other chemical process supplying the additional energy which appears as excess energy. It has to be shown that the electrodes used are fully recoverable and don't change at all during the process.

I'm just trying to assure that they weren't fooled by HHO previously in the system. There are other possibilities too. The inventors are bona fide, but the experiment could fool them.