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Overunity Machines Forum



2 Parralel Sliding Rotors Leap Frogging Around the Stator Magnets

Started by gravityblock, April 25, 2010, 08:36:45 AM

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gravityblock

Quote from: e2matrix on April 25, 2010, 04:48:50 PM
However if one assumes the kinetic or inertial energy comes from the magnets in the first place I'm having a hard time seeing where any extra energy will be present to make a self running device.

Think about this.  The attraction of the rotor magnet to the stator magnet is free kinetic energy.  We know it will take energy to separate the two magnets.  The important thing to note is the rotor magnet will run pass the stator magnet and almost escape before it is pulled back.  I call this yawing into register.  When the rotor magnet first begins to yaw into register, then it takes very little energy for two other magnets in attraction to break the attraction force of the rotor magnet that is yawing into register.  This means we keep most of the kinetic energy we gained during the attraction of those two magnets and we can repeat this process.

This can't be done on a single rotor because when one rotor magnet is yawing into register, then the entire rotor is yawing also.  On a dual rotor, one rotor will be yawing while the other rotor isn't, so we can use this other rotor to break the attraction force of the rotor that is yawing into register with very little force.

GB 
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

Rapadura

Quote from: gravityblock on April 26, 2010, 09:08:20 AM
The attraction of the rotor magnet to the stator magnet is free kinetic energy.  We know it will take energy to separate the two magnets.  The important thing to note is the rotor magnet will run pass the stator magnet and almost escape before it is pulled back

I think it's exactly the moment where we can win the battle against the sticky spot: when the rotor "almost escape" from the stator magnet.

pasi1


Rapadura

Quote from: gravityblock on April 26, 2010, 09:08:20 AM
The attraction of the rotor magnet to the stator magnet is free kinetic energy.  The important thing to note is the rotor magnet will run pass the stator magnet and almost escape before it is pulled back. 

Hey!!!

I was thinking about it, and thinking again, and again...

I have an idea...

What about a "stator" magnet and a toy car with an embedded magnet? Like in the drawing bellow...

The toy car is on a "rail" (a track), and is attracted to the stator magnet, passes along the stator magnet, "almost escapes" from the stator magnet, but is pulled back, right?

I was thinking about the "free kinetic energy"... The movement of the toy car until it reaches the "end of track" (the point where it starts to be pulled back) can be harnessed and energy can be stored.

I was thinking of two ways of using the rotation of the wheels of the car to store energy: electrically and mechanically.

Electrically: the 4 wheels of the toy car turn 2 micro dynamos while the toy car is moving, attracted by the stator magnet. The electricity generated by the micro dynamos is stored in capacitors.

Mechanically: the rotation of the wheels is used to store energy in a mainspring, like a mainspring of a mechanical watch or a friction toy car.

The car need to have a mechanism that, when it reaches the "end of track" (the point where it starts to be pulled back), the stored energy is released back to the 4 wheels, and the car tries to escape from the stator magnet! Maybe it could escape!

The track could be circular, with various stator magnets...


gravityblock

Quote from: pasi1 on April 28, 2010, 06:19:48 AM
hi,

I hope you have luck with this idea


Pasi

I'm going to work on this more.  The counter rotating rotors will be much more complicated, so I will continue on my original design of this thread for proof of concept.

I'll be releasing more videos of my progress soon.  At the moment I'm in the process of making the system easier to fine tune and adjust.  I'm even thinking about putting the stator magnets at different angle to make it an asymmetric system.  This way the rotor magnets will be slightly repelled after TDC.  I'm going to throw every trick I know of at this thing, in hopes to close the loop.

The goal of this project is to create a perpetual motion machine with an all magnet motor, even if it runs at a slow RPM.  If this is successful, then we can make a more complicated machine using the same basic principals that will run at a high RPM so pickup coils can be added and the system can be useful, instead of being a novelty or curiosity only.  I'm limited in what I can build, so this is the best process for me to take. 

GB
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.