Tesla is the father of the TPU

[innovation_station]

I am very happy to finally see that people have working TPU's.

Otto, I must comment on your statements, as they are all important.
(At least they seem that way to me...)

1.  Harmless?  That, for me, is a tough call.  I consider normal DC
electricity, in conventional terms, quite harmless.  Of course, in
certain applications or in high voltage, it can be quite deadly.  ANY
material can be both, in the right quantities, even oxygen, so I could
not commit myself to either opinion without specific details of the
circumstances.  I know you understand this, but for those that have
never had any training of any kind, this is important.  I.E.  I test 9V
transistor batteries by touching them to my tongue.  I wouldn't even
consider testing a 110V or 220V line that way, and if it were DC, I
am certain it would be deadly to try.  (Stupid of me to even mention, eh?)

2.  All Particles have mass?  I assume you would include Photons?
(I'm not talking virtual photons as those aren't real particles.  That
is a discussion for another thread.)  Of course, electrons have mass.
I am just wondering what other particle you could be discussing, as
you state you can prove it and I believe you 100%.  If discussing
photons, that would be a Nobel prize, so you must be considering
some other particle.  Just curious on that one.  (Note:  I would
agree that ANY physically existing "Standing Wave" particle would
have the characteristic of definable mass, so you need not answer
specifically, unless you have knowledge or a particle I am unaware
of that has a substantial effect on the process.  I am hoping....

3. Which coil is which!  This has been going around many times.
Grumpy and I argued many times, to no avail, as the entire unit
has been cloaked in misdirection for a loooong time.  Consider
that the center torrid is MORE important than the outer "Coil".
Of course, seeing that I don't have an operating unit and it seems
that you do, I submit that your information is better than mine.
(Your workbench is certainly more productive, either way...)

4. Actually, SM stated these were high voltage devices, but I
saw the original readings on the meters at 60-70 V.  Is that a
"High" voltage?   I have been bugged by this very same thing
for quite a while and am wondering what really is the "Crossover"
point.  Me, being a chicken and coward, consider anything over
24VDC or 30VAC to be HV.  ANY voltage needing 3 digits is too
high for me.  That being said, what bajac mentions seems WAY
too high for me to consider, although certainly possible.  I would
be very interested in any thoughts you might have about why
so many seem to think it's required.  (I'm ignoring the 600V
crossover mentioned by Tesla as this is an unproven concept.)
Is it possible that "Armchair" workers, who never actually built
a test setup, like to push the values out of easily testable ranges
to prevent their actual construction?  (I have wondered about this...)

As you probably have noticed, I gave up the idea of working this
way very soon after trying it, as I didn't have an understanding of
what RE, as described here, really was.  I must thank Grumpy, though
I haven't ever heard what happened to him, for the insight he gave
me in this area.  (Plus the big help on dipole currents....)  If I ever
learned enough to be able to induce a "Pure" RE pulse from the center
coil, then this would be very viable, but I am nowhere near that as
the elimination of electron flow, or the separation of the two effects
has proven to be very difficult.  More than 90% of standard parts that
I get from electronics stores pass induced RE weather biased on or off,
which makes their use quite confusing, to say the least.  (There is a
very nice paper out on the problem of speed difference in this area
with reference to MOSFET control as the internal diode WILL pass the
one type of energy while blocking the other during the relative time
between the source and the part.  Nasty math, but the effects were
easily measurable, once you knew what you were looking for.  That
was a real eye-opener for me, but I cannot apply it in real life, Yet...
I"m afraid I cannot re-produce the paper, as I only read the hard copy
and have no scan of it.  I'll try to re-borrow, if there is any interest.)

At least, from what you and GK mention, I can assume that the proper
design of a TPU "NEED NOT" make any use of this type of energy, which
should simplify the design considerably.  (Meaning, 200-300 years and
I might get somewhere.....)

OK, that said, I mostly agree with part one of Bajac's post, as this
is a fairly good, basic list of a Tesla coil.
Part two slides into questionable areas that require testing to prove
either way.  Been there, done that, and my knowledge at the time
was not up to the task of a reputable test.  I still can't disregard the
possibility of this method, but I lean away from it in the TPU concept.
Part three is a nice reading from Tesla info, but seems to have no
real reference to the TPU.  Again, it doesn't mean that it is wrong,
but I couldn't say till Number two had test results to back it up.

This really means that the TPU DOESN'T use any form of Radiant
energy conversion, or Tesla would be the father.  The statement
you make implies this IS NOT the case, which, for now, I will accept
as a good possibility.  (I have trust in both your observations.)

I can say for sure, that IF Tesla RE were in use, a SOLID wire would
be the way to go for the "Emitter" section, but as you state, that is
making an unproven assumption.  The "MASS" of the copper would
be the most important factor, in the RE case, so even a stranded
wire would be reducing the effect.  Of course, the reverse IS true
for the "Collection" part.  Now, I hope you see my overall confusion
as to which coil is which, and why I'm still interested in finding out
what a "Working" device is like.  SM describes the Control, and a
"Collector", but doesn't really mention an "Emitter", which would
preclude any RE consideration.  (Aren't I bad with self-contradiction!)

Anyway, any clarity offered is greatly appreciated, and I still feel that
a TPU - like device could be constructed in this manner, but it would
NOT be a copy of an SM TPU.  There is more than one way to skin
a cat, as they say.

Special note to GK:  I was referring to two Separate currents flowing
in one wire, which was initially proven by Tesla.  This was fully tested
and proven by several members here, one of whom I already mentioned.
I have had trouble fully understanding this, but after a few PM's with
prints, and quite a few tests, it IS a common thing.  It can be used,
if fully understood, to see how certain signals can run back down the
power line to return up to other devices, and these same signals may
not even show up on a scope connected to the input line.  It was a
very interesting time for me, and I learned a lot, but now it just sits
in the back of my head as a reminder that there is more to all this
stuff than meets the eye, or the scope probe, as it were.  Think
about how an AV plug works at low frequencies, so RF coupling is
not part of the operation and the concept can become clear.  Hope
I haven't totally messed up this thread.  I'll shut up now and get back
to work.  (I just have to throw a pulse into a central wind like this,
again, to see what happens.  It's been a long time and my awareness
is a little higher these days.  That, and I have learned a lot from all
the various ideas thrown out around here.   Remember, you cannot
run such an RE generating coil from "Rectified" AC line.  That type of DC
power is NOT the same as a true DC source, like a battery or Generator.
I can't fully explain that here, but there is a difference.  A "Tube"
rectifier, or germanium diodes are fine, or a phase buck coil as Tesla
patented is OK, but forget about basic stock diodes without fully taking
into account the differences in setup times between the two types of
energy.  One stops before the other, if it is affected at all.)

Now I must really sound foolish, eh?  I'm really typing too much.  Sorry.

here ya go .... 

orbit I CANT MESURE IT ON A SCOPE

REGARDS ..

IST

your no fool ! : )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEvJ05EDykQ

orbiting cap no input chargeing a dc battery ... : )  how many more videos do you need ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8UVYB3WYN8&feature=related

i have a cap that is self running with gain too  want that video too ?

: )


try me !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvwmhL9gvKo&feature=related

: )  want more ?  lol   i have 300 more videos ... : )

here ya go high rpm 3.6vdc input : )   ps it runs on my orbit cap battery ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wf3MH1Bb3uU

[innovation_station]

ist mini powerstack ....


abcdefghik.....  lol

ist

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSyJh1oYMfQ

so   guess what this unit gets a roof and it sits out side ...    the roof is the solar pannel .. build it a house ...

i can do it with out motion ...  but then the fools get lost along the way ..... 

btw if the true steven marks is not gay im sorry to cause you greef !  if he is ...  SMARTEN UP ! ALREADY ...

[otto]

Hello all,

@IST

you have no idea about the TPU so dont A about Steven Mark and the TPU.

Your videos are nice. I hope in 5 years I can buy something from you in a store. It takes around 5 years until a prodiction is started.

Otto

[innovation_station]

Hello all,

@IST

you have no idea about the TPU so dont A about Steven Mark and the TPU.

Your videos are nice. I hope in 5 years I can buy something from you in a store. It takes around 5 years until a prodiction is started.

Otto

is that so otto ...   perhaps i know more than you can IMAGINE ...  perhaps i show SAFE THINGS ...  and basic things  AS UMMMM MOST MISUNDERSTOOD THE TPU ...

REGARDS!

IST

imagine i took the 120 diodes and fired a tpu ....
AND OTTO IT IS TESLAS WORK PEROID ... A TPU IS A POWER SOURCE ...  AND ALL ENGERY RELATED DEVICES USE TESLAS PRINCABLES  INCLUDEING THE BASIC TPU ..   

THERE IS BUT 1 WAY THE TPU WILL NOT USE TESLAS WORK AND THAT IS IF IT IS A STEP UP DC TRANSFORMER WITH OUT ANY ALTERATIONS ...  MUST BE PURE DC ...  TO NOT USE TESLAS WORK

ANY OTHER WAY  IT IS TESLAS ... : P

BTW ... DONT WASTE MY TIME ...  I KNOW WHAT I KNOW THROUGH TESTING ! ALL SHARED PUBLIC!  JUST WATCH MY MAGNETIC SYNCED OSCOLATOR WITH 1 TRANSISTOR ....  MAGNETIC HARMONIC TUNEING .. DUH

BELEAVE ME I CAN  BLOW YOUR MIND ...  : )

AND WHEN I TELL YOU TIME AND TIME AGIN IT IS TESLAS .. I MEAN IT IS TESLAS PEROID ... 

PROVE ME WRONG !  YOU WILL FAIL ! AS I HAVE PREVISOULY PROVEN THE REALITY HERE ...

I WILL EVEN GO SO FAR AS TO SAY THE NS COILS USE TESLAS WORK ! : )

I CAN KEEP GOING ... : )  LIKE PICK AN INVENTOR !   : )  MULLER ?   YEP SAME OLD BEDINI SAME OLD NS SAME OLD  EV GRAY SAME OLD S. M . OTIS T CAR ...  HUBBARD MPI EMERY RODIN ..  I CAN KEEP GOING ... 

AS I SAID PICK AN INVENTOR ... 

SO OTTO SHORT AND LONG OF WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS TESLA NEVER INVENTED THE COILS THE TPU USES ... WITCH IS BS ... FOR SM TO BE THE ORIGONATOR OF THEASE COILS HE WOULD HAD TO HAVE LIVED B4 TESLA .. AND PATTENED HIS WORK ... WICH INFACT IS NOT THE CASE ... 

THERE FOR IT IS BASED UPON TESLAS WORK ... PEROID!

NUF SED!

BTW TESLAS KICK  IS MY KICK RA'S KICK ...  GO LEARN YOUR HISTORY!   WHERE IN THE HELL DID TESLA LEARN ... 

RIGHT MY PARENTS ... !

SAVEING YOU FROM THE NOTHING YOU HAVE BECOME .... !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xc2oQZmFSKM

HORUS

do not get me started on zeros .... ok !  counter rotating feilds ...  sm's work bull shit ! teslas work ... there ya go ...  but the world needs a power supply not  worm hole generators ...  !!!!!!

the inductance of my kicker board  each is 2.65 H and both as 1 the inductance is 5.15 H   so ....   : )

now what otto ....  you need a core coil .... and a squeez coil eh? lol  of low self inductance ...  right ...

lol

or a transformer ... or what ever the hell you want ....  ; )

HOW ABOUT A BANK OF BOOST CAPS ... : )  EACH CAP HOLDING 10 000 WATTS ... : )

[giantkiller]

You only need 1 FLB and 1 spark gap to produce huge amounts of energy. Any more than that and it is useless. Resonance is the action of 1 source against 1 target timed correctly. Period. The materials are simply your choice.

Since it is Tesla, why the show and tell of massive mechanical and abundance? Are you trying to show and teach?

Mr. Hilsfinger, you have done a great job exposing yourself to the powers that be. Should you at any time power on your devices and power your house in a demo for all the world to see: that will the last switch you turn...

Prove me wrong on this one, my friend. You are already in the cross hairs. Play the fool and stay alive. Be the fool and be over.