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Sound Like S.Mayer?

Started by christo4_99, April 25, 2010, 10:59:16 PM

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Low-Q

Interesting link! However it doesn't sound much like Mayers invention imo. Mayer, as far as I understand, presented a oscillating system that spilt water molecules with help of a given frequency - 42.8khz. A DC offset high-voltage was applied to that frequency also in order to control the direction of oxygen and hydrogen atoms so they can split apart to each respective positive and negative electrode. His claims was that it did almost not require energy to split water such as in conventional electrolysis.

Mayer did not operate with nano technology as far as I know, but maybe nano technology is better?

Vidar

christo4_99

 the process in question basically states that it's easier to resonate the bonds into breaking apart...which is similar to what stan meyer theorized that he was doing. "excitation of the molecule's vibrational states induced dissociation into hydroxyl (H + OH)" is the similarity that i was referring to.

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I have started to question the effect of the resonant frequency. Within audio, a traditional bassreflex loudspeaker there is two resonant systems. An active driver which activates a passive port into resonance. At the ports resonancefrequency, the active driver must work harder to maintain its amplitude because the amplitude in the port is delayed 90 - 180 degrees, and therfor works agains the active driver which tries to maintain the resonance frequency in the port. Within the molecular properties of water, my guess is that the same case is happening. The molecules will work agains the applied high frequency at resonance. I picture a bond between hydrogen and oxygen as a rubberband, and the mass in oxygen and hydrogen will start to oscillate/bounce back and forth, 180 degrees delayed of the applied frequency. When high voltage is applied also, the electric charge will eventually break the water molecule apart at the time where oxygen and hydrogen are farthest apart during the oscillation. And therfor it might require more energy to maintain the HHO generation than we can expect. If this is not the case, we are taking a big leap towards free energy. Any views on these thaughts?

Vidar

christo4_99

as far as resonance is concerned:my understanding is that anything has a resonant frequency defined by rigidity,size,density...etc.it is not necessarily an overunity process but i think using natural resonant frequencies can effect efficiency to a great extent.it is engineering which has the greatest room for improvement.electrical devices these days are not designed as much for efficiency as they are waste.and as far as the water molecule I'm sure it has it's resonant frequency too and I'm convinced Stan Meyer was well on his way to exploiting this toward his own ends.