Does Anyone Know What's Happened to Dr. Timothy Thrapp & Co?

[WilbyInebriated]

Last time I checked, autentic science and authentic religion both look for the truth. There is no contradiction between them. And the Catholic Church didn't burn anyone for subscribing to Galileo's heliocentric understanding of the universe.

religion looking for the truth? they don't even dare to vet their deity much less 'the book'...  surely you are joking? if not please start a new thread and present your evidence. please don't quote the bible as proof, it is not.

"religion is fundamentally opposed to everything I hold in veneration - courage, clear thinking, honesty, fairness, and, above all, love of the truth." --  h.l. mencken

[quarktoo]

Hmm, that's a little harsh, as a far as I'm aware, they have never ripped anyone off and no one is forcing anyone to give them 'donations' - in other words, no Perendev-like behaviour...

WITTS promises that "you will have access to all information once you become a member" which costs about $200 US for a short telephone consult. Not one person has ever said that they actually do that "as far as I am aware". I have heard quite the opposite from several people.

Next I have many email contacts that are similar to zerofozzilefuel's experience. You can watch his video.

One of the pillars of all consumer law is that both buyer and seller know ALL the terms and conditions.

When you offer something in exchange for something, that is NOT a donation, that is a business deal or selling a product.

WITTS on one hand says you will have access to all info. and on the other refuse to tell you what info. you have access to until you make a donation.

When someone misleads others in order to profit that is called fraud in every country on Earth.

Lastly, if they were disclosing "all information" they would be shut down since free energy devices  are illegal in the US under national security laws and those laws are global in scope. You need to talk to a qualified international patent attorney to learn more about military marching orders and section 93 part 141, the national security laws, etc.

The ultrasonic water heater was developed in China and for sale for a short time before it disappeared.

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/EP1340946.pdf

If you really think they are going to build a factory and sell these, you have a lot learn about free energy suppression. You will not only be allowed to sell them, you will not be able to disclose how they work or that you are under a gag order. The patent process and a gag order is their first line of defense. Angel investors and a fraud trial are second and if that does not work, they will kill you. Stan Meyer was slow to catch on but then he didn't realize that the zionist organized syndicate that rules the Earth is not going to give up on of their primary control levers - energy.

The Gulf oil spill is a bit harsh. Two wars for pipelines and poppies that killed over 100,000 people is a bit harsh, etc. The Gaza blockade that will Allow Israel to steal the only oil and gas around is a bit harsh, etc.

[quarktoo]

Last time I checked, authentic science and authentic religion both look for the truth. There is no contradiction between them. And the Catholic Church didn't burn anyone for subscribing to Galileo's heliocentric understanding of the universe.

Last time I checked, there has NEVER been "authentic science or religion". Are you being serious or... I think it would be quite pointless to communicate with you.

[Bob Smith]

Last time I checked, there has NEVER been "authentic science or religion". Are you being serious or... I think it would be quite pointless to communicate with you.

You are right in as much as human persons' imperfections and blind spots (even apart from ill or misleading intent) keep science and religion from being authentic. However, are we not here because we are endeavouring to do authenic science in some small way, despite our own imperfections? In the same way, every religious group's members have their imperfections and blind spots, and bearers of misleading/ill intent. Despite the efforts of the latter, there will always be a spiritual backbone of good persons who seek to live a life of goodness while nurturing and celebrating it in some kind of formalized way. There have been many honourable scientists who have tried to practise both. I'm not going to dig for names, however Louis Pasteur and Dr. Rosalie Bertell are two who come to mind.

I have not met T. Thrapp, and cannot speak for his motivations either as a scientist nor as a religious person. However, I do know that when people strive to honestly seek the truth in either camp, there is often hell to pay due to opposition from those who have been misled, those who seek to mislead or maintain inordinate power/influence/monopoly or those who simply cannot open their minds and hearts to a new paradigm. So perhaps our views are not far apart at all. Hopefully, we can find some common ground, as I have no reason to doubt your sincerity in our common search for scientific knowledge which has been obfuscated at times by both the scientific and religious communities. And yet, at their best, I still believe that science and religion are compatible in as much as they openly and honestly seek after the truth for the betterment of all humankind.
Regards,
Bob

[WilbyInebriated]

just exactly how do you consider blind faith in imaginary savior entities to be "honestly seeking after the truth"?

the only thing science and religion have in common is a stubborn adherence to entrenched dogma even when evidence, or lack thereof, shows otherwise...