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cop > 1

Started by Inquorate, May 09, 2010, 05:42:08 PM

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Inquorate

09052010284 - Vox

Plain and simple.

www.youtube.com/watch?&gl=AU&warned=True&client=mv-google&hl=en-GB&v=-MjwCrbZPaQ&nomobile=1

Www.youtube.com/watch?&gl=AU&warned=True&client=mv-google&hl=en-GB&v=Quav2TbN6OU&nomobile=1

Www.hereticalbuilders.com/showthread.php?s=bb1ce9e4dec3f8bffd29a289de8c5cde&t=113


I don't think the frequency matters that much, just make the pulse width long enough to build a magnetic field in the inductor, and no longer. Then cut the pulse so there is a reverse voltage spike. Both the initial pulse and the recovered spike charge the charge battery at 60 percent efficiency. That equals 120 percent.

Keep the pulses far enough apart that the charge battery doesn't start to boil; cells get destroyed. Keep the pulses close enough together, and the ions in the charge battery will overcome their inertia and keep going (charging), while the source batteries' ions will not.


To find the saturation point for any inductor using a scope,

09052010285 - Vox

You'll see that the voltage from the coil collapse will stop increasing when the pulse width gets beyond a certain point.

Or, without a scope, a voltmeter on a high voltage recovery cap to measure the top voltage will probably suffice. Once the voltage recovered stops increasing, you've found the saturation point.

Here's the scope shots to expect
Www.inquorate.vox.com/library/photo/6a0110169c703a860d0123de3f1b57860d.html


The topmost waveform is from the sig gen, the next from coil - emitter junction andgrounded on the rightmost vertical line, the bottom one is from the charge battery positive and grounded as previous.

As you can see, the charge battery spends a lot more time charging than the source batteries spend discharging.

this was the best video I did for scope shots

YouTube - ts bedini hybrid, for ewizard

Here's the underlying theory;

www.youtube.com/watch?&gl=AU&warned=True&client=mv-google&hl=en-GB&v=bQFP_8V7u1o&nomobile=1

www.youtube.com/watch?&gl=AU&warned=True&client=mv-google&hl=en-GB&v=mJekKwfOlv4&nomobile=1

www.youtube.com/watch?&gl=AU&warned=True&client=mv-google&hl=en-GB&v=DRv1p3HJAjg&nomobile=1

www.youtube.com/watch?&gl=AU&warned=True&client=mv-google&hl=en-GB&v=IgfVny7d6MQ&nomobile=1


Inquorate

09052010284 - Vox


Plain and simple.


www.youtube.com/watch?&gl=AU&warned=True&client=mv-google&hl=en-GB&v=-MjwCrbZPaQ&nomobile=1


Www.youtube.com/watch?&gl=AU&warned=True&client=mv-google&hl=en-GB&v=Quav2TbN6OU&nomobile=1


Www.hereticalbuilders.com/showthread.php?s=bb1ce9e4dec3f8bffd29a289de8c5cde&t=113


I don't think the frequency matters that much, just make the pulse width long enough to build a magnetic field in the inductor, and no longer. Then cut the pulse so there is a reverse voltage spike. Both the initial pulse and the recovered spike charge the charge battery at 60 percent efficiency. That equals 120 percent.

Keep the pulses far enough apart that the charge battery doesn't start to boil; cells get destroyed. Keep the pulses close enough together, and the ions in the charge battery will overcome their inertia and keep going (charging), while the source batteries' ions will not.


To find the saturation point for any inductor using a scope,

http://inquorate.vox.com/library/photo/6a0110169c703a860d01347eecb5ab860b.html

You'll see that the voltage from the coil collapse will stop increasing when the pulse width gets beyond a certain point.

Or, without a scope, a voltmeter on a high voltage recovery cap to measure the top voltage will probably suffice. Once the voltage recovered stops increasing, you've found the saturation point.


Here's the scope shots to expect
Www.inquorate.vox.com/library/photo/6a0110169c703a860d0123de3f1b57860d.html


The topmost waveform is from the sig gen, the next from coil - emitter junction andgrounded on the rightmost vertical line, the bottom one is from the charge battery positive and grounded as previous.

As you can see, the charge battery spends a lot more time charging than the source batteries spend discharging.


this was the best video I did for scope shots


http://www.youtube.com/watch?&gl=AU&warned=True&client=mv-google&hl=en-GB&v=Fzid4bLJ7fU&nomobile=1

Here's the underlying theory;


www.youtube.com/watch?&gl=AU&warned=True&client=mv-google&hl=en-GB&v=bQFP_8V7u1o&nomobile=1

www.youtube.com/watch?&gl=AU&warned=True&client=mv-google&hl=en-GB&v=mJekKwfOlv4&nomobile=1


www.youtube.com/watch?&gl=AU&warned=True&client=mv-google&hl=en-GB&v=DRv1p3HJAjg&nomobile=1


www.youtube.com/watch?&gl=AU&warned=True&client=mv-google&hl=en-GB&v=IgfVny7d6MQ&nomobile=1


Thanks for your interest

baroutologos

hey Inquorate,

Nice diagram over there and working concept.
Have you checked it by the way? Are you 100% possitive that produces OU?
Have you make repeatable experiments that confirm it?

Or just you express noble wishes?

gyulasun

Hi Inquorate,

Have you considered testing your setup with high value capacitors instead of the battery?  Could the working principle remain valid for capacitors?

Or you think the battery chemical effect (like in Bedini's case) is also needed here to get COP>1?

Thanks,  Gyula

mscoffman

@Inquorate;

These threads on overunity.com seem relevant to your device:

Thread Link: Mechanical setups/Bedini Systems/Bedini SSG self sustaining/

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7997.0

Summary;
User Plengo constructs a microprocessor test board with sufficient capability
to swap batteries in a setup like this. He also discusses seeing battery
surface charge that may be applicable to this unit. Significantly, he was
never able to demonstrate a self running battery swapping capability using
a Bedini circuit.

-

I was thinking is that it is possible to build a rough inexpensive VFC voltage
to frequency converter using a 78L05 regulator, CMOS NE555 PWM voltage
measuring system that could continuously send back voltage measurements
from each of the three acid/lead batteries to the microprocessor via AC
bypass caps.

---

Thread Link: Electronic Solid State Setup/Joule Thief/
Second Stage Joule Thief circuits/

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8334.0

Summary;
Users Groundloop and GadgetMall construct a microprocessor based
Load Regulator that is set up to turn on and discharge a battery through
a known load of one watt second per second when it's voltage state of
charge of the battery is high and turn it off when the voltage state
of charge of the battery drops.

-

Two inexpensive alarm clocks could be used to show the integrated
time of; (a) The total run time of the experiment, and (b) the total
time the dummy user load is turned on. Over time, eventually exceeding
the capacity of the batteries to store energy, by any number of times.

The thread concludes here;

Thread Link: OverUnity Prize/Devices applied for the OU prize/
OU prize OFFICIAL ENTRY/

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8332.0

Summary;
Significantly what was seen as so much overunity energy seems to
have disappeared during actual testing with adequate instrumentation.

You don't have to show these things, and neither does Steorn.

:S:MarkSCoffman