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Leveraged pendulum - perpetuum mobile simulation works!

Started by Rapadura, May 11, 2010, 08:31:47 PM

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Rapadura

May 11, 2010, 08:31:47 PM
It has started in the other thread:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=9163.0

But the lack of response in that thread is forcing me to create this new one.

I had created a simulation using PHUN software of a perpetuum mobile that works! Do you understand me?

PHUN is a educational 2D physics simulation software, worldwide known, that received a lot of awards. You can download PHUN here:

http://www.phunland.com/wiki/Download

Well, using PHUN i just created a "leveraged pendulum", that is a kind of "lever" with a stell ball in one of its ends, and this "leveraged pendulum" is a perpetuum mobile. The pendulum simply goes higher at each swing.

I created two versions of the perpetuum mobile, and here are the two YouTube videos of the two simulations:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyKRF6SH3eU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEGAqvYzrUM

And I'm posting bellow the .PHZ files that you can run for yourselfs using PHUN on your computers.

Because the size of the files are greater than 300 kb (the maximum file size to upload here at Overunity.com) I had to split the files using WinRar. You can download the two parts and mount the final .PHZ file using WinRar.

The first version (of the first YouTube video) is the file "Leveraged pendulum.phz", that was split by WinRar in the files: "Leveraged pendulum.part1.rar" and "Leveraged pendulum.part2.rar"

The second version of the pendulum (of the second video) is the file "Perpetuum_mobile.phz" that was split in two by WinRar in the files: "Perpetuum_mobile.part1.rar" and "Perpetuum_mobile.part2.rar"

Just to clarify: PHUN simulations don't have WIND. The clouds in the background are just to indicate the simulation speed, that can be regulated by the user. There is air friction in the simulations, but there's no wind.

Rapadura

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May 11, 2010, 08:48:44 PM
For those who don't want to download the .RAR files, I had published the .PHZ files on DriveHQ.

You can do the direct download of the .PHZ files at this links:

http://www.drivehq.com/file/df.aspx/shareID7123548/fileID517573613/Leveraged_pendulum_v1.phz

(First version)

http://www.drivehq.com/file/df.aspx/shareID7123569/fileID517574559/Perpetuum_mobile.phz

(Second version)

There's no excuse to say that "the simulation is fake" or "the YouTube videos are fake": just download the .PHZ files and run on your own computer, using PHUN.

Rapadura

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May 11, 2010, 09:45:37 PM
If someone here is thinking that I will let this thread "die"... Forget it!  I won't...

A working "perpetual motion" simulation in an award winning software won't be ignored. No way.

AB Hammer

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May 11, 2010, 10:15:19 PM
Quote from: Rapadura on May 11, 2010, 09:45:37 PM
If someone here is thinking that I will let this thread "die"... Forget it!  I won't...

A working "perpetual motion" simulation in an award winning software won't be ignored. No way.

Rapadura

Looking at your youtube videos looked like you have a wind due to the clouds moving from the left to right. I have done what you are showing to look at effects. In a wind it will rock back and forth, and could spin it. But without it, it will stop. With a simple box fan I can get allot of designs to spin, but they are not runners. Simulations are great for an idea but after seeing several simulations running, I have to see a real test for they quite often are different.

Alan
With out a dream, there can be no vision.

Alan

Rapadura

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May 12, 2010, 06:40:29 AM
Quote from: AB Hammer on May 11, 2010, 10:15:19 PM
Rapadura

Looking at your youtube videos looked like you have a wind due to the clouds moving from the left to right. I have done what you are showing to look at effects. In a wind it will rock back and forth, and could spin it. But without it, it will stop. With a simple box fan I can get allot of designs to spin, but they are not runners. Simulations are great for an idea but after seeing several simulations running, I have to see a real test for they quite often are different.

Alan

NO!!!! Please don't "look to my YouTube videos"!!! Just download PHUN and run the simulation for yourself!!

If you were a PHUN user you should know that PHUN simulations don't have WIND! Wind plays no role in the simulatios!

The clouds in the background, as I explained above, are just to show the "simulation speed", because the user can accelerate the simulation speed until 10x (what means that 1 second is the equivalent to 10 seconds).

There's air friction, but there's no wind!

Why is everyone afraid of running the simulation?
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