Do you see what I see???

[gauschor]

it's really hard to say without giving it a try

No, it's not hard to say that it won't work, if you've messed around with magnets before. If you don't believe I'd suggest that you buy 50 magnets for a total of 20$ and try out multiple arrangements yourself...

[Raj Balkee]

I thank you all gentlemen for your replies.
I would like many more forum members to reply and let me know what they see in my concept ( A very simple concept).
Tell me honestly what you see, good or bad. It won't hurt me.

I see the the wheels in the drawing in a BALANCED  state (as if held at rest at this position). But looking closely at its setup, you will feel that the small wheel must get unbalanced immediately (when released from held rest position) because of the magnets attracting and repelling actions.
The small wheel will then rotate clockwise, because of the additional torque provided by the larger wheel resting and moving further from the axle of the smaller wheel on that clockwise side.

I see the actions of the magnets to continue. I see the rotations of the two wheels to continue.

I DO NOT see anything in this set up to act, to counter this rotation once started. Not even FRICTION.

Of course, the efficiency of my device will depend on (1) the strength and weight of the magnets,(2) the size of the wheels and (3) the weight of the larger wheel which will provide the required torque.
N.B: Further efficiency can be attained with magnets lined up throughout the circumference of both wheels.
Now!
How many of you, good members of this esteemed forum, see what I see?
I thank you in advance for your replies.
Please remember, your replies can be positive or negative views. I will appreciate them.  I just want to hear from you.

Raj Balkee
Mauritius

[Raj Balkee]

Just a quick passing thought!!!

If the wheels won't run, they must keel to a stop position.
Where will be that 'Keel' position?
Certainly not the positions of the wheels as in the drawing. Here the magnets are ready to act, pull and push to start a motion of the wheels.

Where will be the rest position of the wheels if they wont't run???
Do you see what I see???

[gyulasun]

Hi Ray,

I think your setup can work as you describe. I 'went through' on it in my mind and have not found a state where the rotation could stop due to sticky points.  Of course there are sticky points.
The biggest sticky point is whenever two magnets on the different wheels are just passing in front of each other as you can see in the drawing at the 12 o'clock position on the big wheel but this sticky point is always defeated by two attract and two repel effects of the neighbouring magnets.
The other sticky points are much much smaller than the big one just mentioned and they depend mainly on the diameter of the small wheel with respect to the big wheel. The small sticky points (that are not at the 12 o'clock position) are also compensated for by the attract and repel forces, there is very little residual motion-to-counterforce remains that is also overcome by the main two attract and repel forces mentioned earlier.

Do you have practical result with this setup or you just figured it out without any tests?  Maybe you have some hint on the ratio of the outside diameters of the two wheels?  They are important of course. Suppose the big wheel has a 30cm OD, then the small wheel should have slightly less than 15cm OD or around the half OD of the big wheel?

rgds,  Gyula

[Raj Balkee]

Hello Gyula,
I would have already built a working device, but for lack of readily available materials, like special magnets in my tiny Island Country, I have not been able to do so.
I have carried out partial initial test to check basic concept of my device, using magnets from car windscreen wiper motor, and my tests were conclusive.
I have no doubt that with proper cylindrical diametrically magnitised magnets, my device will work perfectly. At least this is what I see right now!.
I have no knowledge of electromagnetism. Thus I do not have any clue to any rpm that the wheels
will have and least of all, I do not have a clue to any power output my device may or may not give.
All I see is that my device will run.
That's all I want. Just show a running device for now.
I know many of you gentlemen have far more facilities in your countries to built devices like mine. Needless to say, how much I would appreciate if any of you, good Samaritan, will try to build and test my device and let us all know the outcome of his endeavour. I know it will cost a few dollars, as one of our friends has mentioned earlier, but I believe it will be money well spent, as it will show us something we don't know yet.
Once again, I thank you, and all other friends on this forum, for taking their time and effort to contribute on my topic in here.
Raj