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Overunity Machines Forum



Bismuth core Joule thief

Started by Mk1, June 16, 2010, 06:14:37 PM

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Mk1

@pirate

I was thinking about the NS coil , and some other devices that to me work in the same way , it got me thinking about the Kapa and the briefcase devise that show lamination of aluminum bismuth and copper , with a sync link to ground , i just can't find it now , but BUT the briefcase is a tesla coil , yes one connect to ground goes into a coil that one into a second one spark gap then cap to ground , just like Wordenclife i suspect the coil of being an electromagnet NS type , the A.B.C plates could be battery , and after some research Bismuth can be tweaked into a solid electrolyte , it also generates a huge magnetic field . Look into fuel cell for more detail but what if we could make a fuel cell without the fuel and replace it by the magnetic pulse making it a magnetic cell.


I hope someone get what i am saying on this ,  :D i bet not .

So i am looking into making a cell that work like the NS but with a solid  electrolyte that is also the core ...

The best way to see how it could work is to make a JT  ;D.

Mark

resonanceman

Quote from: Pirate88179 on June 21, 2010, 11:54:41 PM
What is the reason for this?  If you want a material that magnetizes and de-magnetizes instantly faster than ferrite try Met-glass.  Otherwise ferrite is the best choice here.

Bill

Bill

How  can you  be sure  what is the best possible  choice.?

I am sure that if OU is possible  it will be found in the  quirks that are ignored  or explained away  by conventional  teaching.

The  fact  that bismuth is the most paramagnetic  material sounds  like a quirk to me.......... it also sounds  like what  it  can do  has not  been studied much......to me that is another hint  that there might  be something  to it.

I think I read that someone said  that bismuth puts out a huge magnetic field.......if that is true...it might   be a better primary wire than  copper..

I am not  assuming  anything  about it.......I just think  it is an bismuth has some interesting quirks  that I think are worth looking  into.


gary



resonanceman

Quote from: jadaro2600 on June 22, 2010, 12:17:27 AM
those lead-free solders are mostly tin.

Jadaro     

OK ........
I read  on one of the links  a few posts back that bismuth  was used in solder..... I had some solder and  felt more like experimenting than  researching.

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Does anyone know of a common  product  that  is mostly bismuth?
A link also  said  it was used  for sinkers.....I checked walmart..... all of theirs seem to be lead.

gary


resonanceman

Quote from: Mk1 on June 22, 2010, 12:30:24 AM
@pirate

I was thinking about the NS coil , and some other devices that to me work in the same way , it got me thinking about the Kapa and the briefcase devise that show lamination of aluminum bismuth and copper , with a sync link to ground , i just can't find it now , but BUT the briefcase is a tesla coil , yes one connect to ground goes into a coil that one into a second one spark gap then cap to ground , just like Wordenclife i suspect the coil of being an electromagnet NS type , the A.B.C plates could be battery , and after some research Bismuth can be tweaked into a solid electrolyte , it also generates a huge magnetic field . Look into fuel cell for more detail but what if we could make a fuel cell without the fuel and replace it by the magnetic pulse making it a magnetic cell.


I hope someone get what i am saying on this ,  :D i bet not .

So i am looking into making a cell that work like the NS but with a solid  electrolyte that is also the core ...

The best way to see how it could work is to make a JT  ;D.

Mark

Mark

I think I saw a video about that briefcase device.   I did not understand it.
If you are right ........and bismuth  puts out a bigger magnetic pulse than other metals  it could be very useful  for  many things......including JTs

In one of the links it showed  a bar  of bismuth  being  attracted to a magnet then repelled by it....  If  a bismuth  wire coil  had a similar response  ..........if it made a big pulse then  collapsed or reversed......wouldn't that make  a faster JT?
Wouldn't  that  be a faster rate of change..... closer to a disruptive discharge than  a normal JT?

gary

Pirate88179

Gary:

I was talking about a core material, not for primary winding.

Bismuth can be easily obtained from shotgun shells, just be careful unloading them if they are live.  The pellets are bismuth instead of lead.  I read this somewhere on the net.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen