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Internal Propulsion

Started by IntProp, June 17, 2010, 02:44:40 AM

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IntProp

I want to propose a new type of propulsion â€" internal propulsion. This is a type of propulsion, producing propulsive force inside a vehicle without any relation to the environment. I wrote an article, describing basic principles and some features of internal propulsion. This is not comprehensive paper, there are much more phenomena and effects, on basis of which can be built internal propulsion. I only want to initialize research on this subject. I have not possibility to conduct experiments and full scale tests. Because of that I am very interested in sharing my ideas with people in hope, that someone will be able to realize these principles on practice. The article can be found here: http://internalpropulsion.awardspace.co.uk/.

I have proved, that internal propulsion violates conservation of energy. I have also proved, that jet propulsion also violates conservation of energy â€" power consumption of jet engine does not depend on vehicle speed.
On basis of internal propulsion can be built antigravity devices. Internal propulsion allows to accelerate vehicle to speeds, higher than speed of light. Using principles of internal propulsion we can build energy producing devices.
I think that internal propulsion is breakthrough propulsion. I think it is our future.
I would like to ask community, if someone has possibility to help to implement this propulsion in our life, to participate in dissemination of this idea among people.

frii143

I can't see the picture and I don't understand from the wording. Is the Internal Propulsion like surging water from the center of the wheel to the innerside of the rim that passes through a pipe to a generator by Centripical Force or G-forces? Or is it more like something mechanical like a weight and spring that can harvest and store movement Forces the rotate them to work for the vehicle?

broli

I like the presentation, very clean and well written to convey the concept. Btw you should be able to build these, they are not that complex.

I have only a remark on the last device. That seems to good to be true to generate a force. Won't the pressure differential acting on the wing also act on the inner wall of the tubing.

These experiment are really easy to carry out, especially the last one which you don't even need closed tubing for. See attached. You need a pc fan, paper and tape. You can make a tube out of some A4 paper and tape, and the wing out of cardboard perhaps. Then test with and without the tubing and note the difference. There's no excuse for not building it  ;D .

IntProp

Pressure difference across wing is dynamical. It arises only with change of speed of the stream, which takes place only around curved surface of the wing. At distances (0.5-1)*c of the wing (c is chord) this speed change is very small. So, the pressure, acting on a wall of tube, will practically not change. The only pressure difference in the system will be pressure difference between lower and upper surfaces of the wing (or wings).

broli

Quote from: IntProp on June 17, 2010, 07:53:55 AM
Pressure difference across wing is dynamical. It arises only with change of speed of the stream, which takes place only around curved surface of the wing. At distances (0.5-1)*c of the wing (c is chord) this speed change is very small. So, the pressure, acting on a wall of tube, will practically not change. The only pressure difference in the system will be pressure difference between lower and upper surfaces of the wing (or wings).

If this is true then newton's third law isn't applying here. Would be an interesting experiment. And like I said there's no reason why you shouldn't be able to build a simple experiment. You can use a smooth plastic bottle, with base and head cut off, as the tube and make an aerodynamic shape out of any material desired and jam it into the bottle. Then hang it on a string and blow air from bottom or top and see what it does.