Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2

[Craigy]

Give up! the bearings are microscopic, and impossible to put back in without a microscope, I have the bearings now they are normaly very good and get to Tenerife in 2 weeks from the states, probably quicker to you.
I don't know what the customs limit is inthe uk nowadays , but here as long as i don't go over 30 dollars, they don't bother asking for duty. I know, that if customs get involved i have a 30 euro paperwork charge, even tho the duty is only a couple of euros, and the packet gets delayed a month...Thats why i use ebay so often, most sellers use standard post so the customs don't get involved.

Craig

[attack duck]

Hi Sean - yeah I know what you are saying.  Some guys were calling that the Tri-Force technique a year or so ago on the Minatowheel list.  I try to stay optomistic but whenever you have 2 or more magnets together, they all combine together to essentially become one magnet.   Shielding can help but reduces the power because it attracts the field.  Hey, if it was easy, we'd all be flying around in George Jetson skycars by now!
  I can easily lift a planet and reorient it on my setup.   One thing I want to try is reorient the planets with all N facing in.  Then as the base turned, the field will pulsate
N,S,N,S at the center of the axle.  Should be able to make some killer AC!
  Another thing to try would be to try some vertical rotors.  Take a look at this proposal off the Steorn - Peswiki site.   Looks interesting but theres still back drag on the belts and wobble drive.

                                                Glenn

[kukulcangod]

My little tribute to all of you hard working experimenters

Keep going.

Best of all to you.

[stevensuf]

HI to all new to this forum but not new to this field.
A couple of coments on the Torbay after watching the video of the original.

1.It will never ever work without a disc shaped rotor magnet ,with poles through the diameter ie at curved edges not faces, any other arrangement will produce cogging.
Some people i see were/are trying to use bar/rod magnets these will just cog unless you have the stator magnets extremely close together which is a big no no.

2. The stator magnets must be a fair distance apart or the force to put them down will be huge it is not important that they are close together rather the opposite, leave a good gap between the magnets. Hence you must use the disc magnet so you can have the stator magnets sufficiently far apart to reduce the force required to reset them and avoid avoid cogging which would occur with bar/rod/array of individual magnets.

3. Timing get it right A simple ramp system as Torbay used on the bottom /top of rotor disc, like a simple rollercoaster ride works well no springs just rollers and the stator magnet restet force is minimal if you use the proper disc stator magnet and correct timing.

[tonyc]

HI to all new to this forum but not new to this field.
A couple of coments on the Torbay after watching the video of the original.

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Hi ,
    from your message it sounds like you have a working "torbay" ?

After several failed atempts I studied his video again , and am now convinced it is a fake. Unless my efforts are way off line , I can see no way that the motor would stop dead as soon as the on/off magnet is removed. From my experiments it would rock back and forth for awhile and would stop either at the raised magnet or the hole made by the slide magnet..it doesn't do this in the video . Also he manages on one occasion to slide the magnet back into the device when the rotor magnet is right in front of the slide magnet , he does this with his finget tips , my experiments show me that it would require a lot more force than that.

The inventor does stress the importance of shapeing the magnets.. I am unable to do this , so maybe his motor realy does work and this shapeing of the magnets is the secret to it all.

I would be pleased to hear that you have been able to replicate the motor , then I could follow your advice above and try again.

cheers

            Tony