Electric gas turbine review

[prometheus]

Hi,

I feel I stumbled over something more talented people may have overlooked. Please visit my site and review my idea on http://www.prometheusturbine.info.

Some people say I am aiming for a perpetuum mobile, but personally I think it is a very fuel efficient gas turbine.

I am interested in any kind of feedback. For instance will it work? Is the idea well explained? Am I wasting your and my time?

[mr_bojangles]

so instead of combusting gasoline, your injecting water vapor, and instead of igniting the gasoline, your using electricity to heat the water? which would expand?

so essentially it is closer to a steam engine almost?

that was what i could understand from your website, let me know how close/far i am to your design

[prometheus]

Thank you for your feedback. You got very close.

The gasoline is combusted in a diesel generator, next the electricity produced by this generator is used to power induction coils.

These induction coils heat the air inside the combustors, next this hot air expands and drives the turbines of the generator connected to the power grid.

The injection of small amounts of water is optional. It can increase volume and pressure.

I will make a new flowchart and post it here. The present one is confusing. Sorry for that.

[mr_bojangles]

wouldn't the diesel generator still be effected by the inefficiency of gasoline?

im asking because i thought your system was replacing this component of the combustion engine



however, could you not use the natural heat exhaust of the diesel generator as the heating component of your secondary electrical generator?

i like the idea that the first phase (diesel gen) would have essentially no load, but you would probly lose that energy if you tried to use it for heat, because electric heaters tend to draw large amounts of electricity, which would be less than what you could extract from the secondary heat type engine in the second phase

[prometheus]

You are correct, the diesel generator is inefficient, it needs 2,690 kW (269 liters/hour) to generate 1,000 kW, so 1,690 kW (169 liters/hour) is wasted.

You are also correct that electric heaters tend to draw large amounts of electricity. But the 10 electric combustors are based on the TDU-30 plasma torch which only consumes 30 kW and can easily reach 2,000 degrees Celsius.

http://www.tekna.com/equipment/induction-plasma-systems/tdu-30.html

Together the 10 electric combustors only consume 300 kW, so the 1,000 kW generated by the diesel generator is enough to power all 10 electric combustors.

Therefor, at the expense of 269 liters/hour consumed by diesel generator, the 10 electric combustors can heat the air to the same temperature as the Kawasaki gas turbine which has only 8 combustors and consumes 2,349 liters/hour.

(Please also see the diagram in the attached pdf file)

Regarding the use of the natural heat exhaust of the diesel generator: the hot exhaust of the diesel generator can be used.

It can be injected in the electric combustors for extra heat but the particles in the exhaust can damage the turbines, and it is probably to little and not worth the extra cost.