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Overunity Machines Forum



These magnet wheels look set to run !!!

Started by Raj Balkee, July 10, 2010, 07:06:29 AM

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Raj Balkee

That is absolutely correct.
The wheels will be in continuous interaction. The big wheel continuously floating, as you mentioned.
It is important to note that all the magnetic forces, both repulsion and attraction forces, seem to be providing a clockwise torque turning effect to the inner small wheel rotable on its axle.
The big questions are:
(1).Will all these magnetic forces acting on the wheels leave them on equilibrium position?
(2) Do you see  sticky points strong enough to counter all the torque providing magnetic forces, and make the wheels stay in equilibrium?
Of course, we are looking at this only theoritically.
The final proof must be a working prototype.
I want to you all to help me analyse my AGE concept theoritically at least, if a build is not is not envisaged for now.
Thanks.
Raj

Thaelin

Hi Raj:
   Going back to the new draw in post 5, if you follow all the lines you have drawn, you will see an "exact" replication on each side. That is to say, you have an equal attract and oppose on each site. This draw is in total lockup as shown and will not move.
   On a better note, KJMag has 3/8" diametric magnets for about a buck apiece. So for about $25, I can have some fun too. Need to order some big diametric anyhow. Keep ya posted. See how many more blisters I can get in the process.

thay

Raj Balkee

Hello thaelin,
I am so pleased to have you here again.
Yes, you are right to say that the magnetic attraction and repulsion lines look like an exact replication on each side of the wheels.

But! But! Look closely at each magnets on the small inner wheel. Each magnet here has two lines of magnetic engagement, one attraction and one repulsion. And! And both lines of magnetic force (one pushing and one pulling  the small inner wheel CLOCKWISE.

In fact, it looks to me that almost all the attraction and repulsion magnetic lines on BOTH SIDES of the wheels are applying some torque to the small inner wheel, which consequently will rotate clockwise, which will in turn, makes the outer bigger wheel rotate on top of the smaller wheel, thereby resetting the positions of the magnets.

  I remain at your disposal  to be corrected on what I see.

thaelin, I am indebted to you for you having a go at a trial build of our AGE.
Please let us know how it goes.
Thanks again.
Raj

The Eskimo Quinn

Forgetting sticky spots, i don't see where the wheel is overbalanced to get gravitational assistance?, so in fact it would be a smot, where the driver is the wheel inside, so all the weight of the small wheel is one the left when climbing, so we have to assume the driver has the capacity to accelerate with sufficient force to throw the wheel around the track at speed, Can't say either way if it will or won't work, only that it needs great speed or it will equally roll backwards from the top, thus my input for you is use very strong neos for power, good luck, definitely cool looking machine
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Raj Balkee

If we ignore the influence of the magnets ( attracting and repulsion effects) on the wheels above, they are in full balanced/equilibrium position.

But! But both wheels are under full influence of the magnetic forces of the adjoining magnets.

I now expect the larger wheel to rise up slightly on the clockwise side and to lower down slightly on the counter-clocwise side, as in the second drawing below.

If we look closely on this second drawing, we should observe the following:
(1)the larger wheel is kept in that position by the magnetic forces and is unlikely to slip or roll back
(2) The larger wheel has now help to change the centre of gravity of the wheels. The wheels must now rotate together on the axle of the smaller whheel.
(3) the wheels will automaticly reset themselves to their start position
(4) the rotating action and the resetting action will happen closely/almost simultaneously.

The above is what I see.
These wheels look set to run!!! Only a build will prove otherwise.

What do you think?
Please let us have your comments.
Thanks.
Raj