These magnet wheels look set to run !!!

[Raj Balkee]

This is a new version of my original Automatic Gravity Engine concept I showed in my previous topic: Do you see what I see...

Look at the drawing below. This is just an upside down drawing of my original AGE drawing.

Can you all now appreciate what this new drawing shows?

This shows a larger cylindrical drum wheel free to rotate on its axle (not shown), with strong cylindrical diametrically magnetised permanent magnets with their poles radially fixed between its inner and outer rims at eight equidisdant points, starting from the 12 o'clock position.

A second smaller cylindrical wheel with eight similar magnets, tangentially fixed at at eight equidistant points inside next to the its rim, free to roll on the inside rim of the larger wheel.

Can you appreciate the positions of the poles of the magnets on the drawing?

Many magnets are in engaging positions, with like poles ready to repulse and opposite poles ready to pull, which look set to make the smaller wheel rotate clockwise, thereby unbalancing the larger wheel on its axle and this larger wheel must therefore rotate clockwise too.

The magnets will continuously be in engaging positions, therefore the pulling and repulsing will be continuous. Therefore the wheels will rotate continuously.

These magnets look set to run.

Would you all agree?

Raj

[Thaelin]

   OK Raj, I will bite. If I look at the placement of the poles, I see on the left attraction, and on the right repulsion. Now if the wheels are gear linked together, common sense tells me that it should want to keep moving its self to the attraction side. Therefore making it run auto. On the bottom, sadly I see a sticky spot at close proxcimity that may have more holding power than the other two forces combined. With that, only way to find out would be to "build it" and I dont have a shop to do so. At $80 per hour shop time and finding one that wants to "bother" with it, makes it hard.
   Another possible would be using a toothed belt setup to drive it but then I dont have that either.

   All in all, you pose an interesting idea.


With all that out of the way, what would be the chance that you could use this idea to be an assist to what ever input force you may have?

thaelin

[Raj Balkee]

Hello thaelin,
Thank you for your kind reply.

(1)Has any of you come across a magnet motor/engine design, however close to my AGE design?
I would appreciate if you could kindly tell me a bit about the design you have come across.

(2) Is there any of you who thinks that my Automatic Gravity Engine will not run?
  If yes, please give me a single reason why you think it won't run.

(3) Below is a new drawing of my AGE design, where I have attempted to show the interactions of the magnets of the two wheels.
The black broken lines show the direct engaging lines between centres of reciprocal magnets of the two wheels, with positive attractions and repulsions that would would supply magnetic force for both wheels to turn clockwise.
The red broken shows negative counter magnetic force as sticky points.
The drawing shows a heavily positive magnetic force, always forcing the wheels to turn clockwise.

Do you now think that this drawing constitute a theoritical proof that my Automatic Gravity Wheel is set to run?

As to your question, thaelin, I leave it to each one of you to answer it for himself.

I look forward to hear from you.
God Bless.

Raj
 

[Raj Balkee]

I believe you will all appreciate the following details:
The drawing above is drawn to scale:
The larger outer wheel diameter is 20 cms.
The smaller inner wheel diameter is 10 cms.
The 16 diametrically cylindical magnetised magnets ( 8 in each wheel) diameter is 2 cms, their strength is 6000 gauss, the engaging distance between two magnets is 10 cms. ( these magnets are available from www.first4magnets.com UK)
The real proof whether my AGE will run or not is definitely a working prototype.
But for reasons already mentioned in my previous topic, I would not be able to build and test my Automatic Gravity Engine before 2011 March/April.
Is there any of you who would care and dare try this build for us.
Let's hope so.
Thanks
Raj

[Lilhawk]

this will not run....

The push/pull of the entry and exit magnets are not enough to overcome the bottom magnets where a sticky point will be

I would agree with your design if the magnet attraction/repullsion was linear...but it is not

Distance is key..... forget your guass numbers...   you need to look at the scale of force over distance in .1 mm increments and apply that to your design

You will find that there is not enough energy to over come the sticky point.