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Centrifugual water generator idear

Started by Cherryman, July 19, 2010, 03:42:02 PM

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AB Hammer

Cherryman and all

If you like this. Here is a simple test that I have already done with similar thoughts and effects but a different design. Take a bucket with a hole funneled in the bottom with a hose that goes out the bottom and up the side to the edge of the bucket to try to flow back in. Then tie a rope to the handle of the bucket and fill with water and spin it around as hard as you can. The water will stay in the bucket but little water if any will come out of the hose. This is a test you should do before trying this design in a build. I chose to go no further on mine.

But I find allot of good thought to come up with the design.

Alan
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Alan

Cherryman

Quote from: AB Hammer on July 20, 2010, 09:12:15 PM
Cherryman and all

If you like this. Here is a simple test that I have already done with similar thoughts and effects but a different design. Take a bucket with a hole funneled in the bottom with a hose that goes out the bottom and up the side to the edge of the bucket to try to flow back in. Then tie a rope to the handle of the bucket and fill with water and spin it around as hard as you can. The water will stay in the bucket but little water if any will come out of the hose. This is a test you should do before trying this design in a build. I chose to go no further on mine.

But I find allot of good thought to come up with the design.

Alan

Hello AB, I think the test you describe is not the same. With the test you describe the water in the hose has to fight the
rotational force to go back in the bucket. So actually you exchange gravity for rotational force. Therefore creating an equal, that will not work or very slow.

If you want to apply your test on the device above then you simply make a hole in the bucket and swing it around and watch the speed in which the water
leaves the hole in the bucket.  The hose back is not necessary. 


Low-Q

I am thinking about something like this:
A turbine are combined with the water intake. It will require energy to start this thing as we are lifting water upwards in the beginning. When the hose are all filled up, the centrifugal forces will suck in water through the turbine. The turbine will then be powered by the centrifugal forces in the water. Either, this thing will not work at all, or we will loose controll of the RPM... Maybe be limited by loss in air resistance and bearings. I have a feeling this will work because I do not know exactly what parameters which will prevent this to be a selfrunner....

Vidar

broli

Very similar design:
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4348-water-turbine-project.html

I suggest you read some of Viktor Schaubergers book, you'll find all the information you need in them.

Low-Q

Quote from: broli on July 21, 2010, 07:49:15 AM
Very similar design:
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4348-water-turbine-project.html

I suggest you read some of Viktor Schaubergers book, you'll find all the information you need in them.
Some of the last designs looks similar, but I don't understand that the nozzles will act as jets. The water velocity will go down in the tube, so the nozzle velocity will probably not provide enough power to turn the wheel alone. I think that a turbine placed in a "dead" area, like in the water intake, would be a better approach - and just let the water have as free float as possible instead of resist it with nozzles.

As a start it should be possible to use a regular plastic fan you'll find in most computers, or in RC-flight applications. Fix this inside a plastic tube at the water intake, and let the water flow freely through it, and then split this tube outwards to create the centrifugal force.

Vidar