The downfalls of conventional electrolysis - and how to fix them

[Goat]

@ Passion1

Excellent find! 

I looked at the list of components that Alaskastar had listed on http://oupower.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2327&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=315&sid=db62edf009caea84de790aeb11d55f19

Do you or anyone else here know if they are the components to the schematic just posted above?

555 Timer IC

1 Megaohm Cermet Potentiometer

47K Ohm Resistor

330 Ohm Resistor

1 uf tantalum (Polarized) capacitor

0.1 uf disc (non polarized) capacitor

LM7805

10 uf Polarized electrolytic capacitor

100 uf Polarized electrolytic capacitor

IRF540N HEXFET

Xenon Bulb

1 Mega-Ohm Resistor, 0.125 watt

Regards,
Paul

[passion1]

Paul

Yes, that is the components.
I got the schematic directly from Chris (Alaskastar) back in 2008.
(Since this circuit/pcb was already posted on the oupower forum as open source previously, I believe I may post it here. If not, then please remove my post)
I also attach a photo of a unit that was used/built by Alaskastar himself.
At the time I was just as excited about the concept as everyone else in this thread.
Chris also sold PCB's at the time (see attached PCB layout) for the circuit and I ordered two pcb's from Chris (hand built by himself with the right components).
Did everything he told me in e-mails but could not get it going?
Chris is a nice guy and I trust him but I cannot explain why I couldnot get it to work even while using a pcb built by Chris himself.
I tried several different configurations of pipe diameter and number of windings and/or wire thickness, but no luck.
Hope that some of you have more luck than myself and share your success if you do!
Just be VERY careful because the super saturated NaOH solution is really very very nasty. One drop of that in your eye and you’re blind....
Unfortunately, this is all information I have to share.
Good luck!

[ramset]

Passion,

Your input here is priceless!
thank you

Can you give more detail on what you tried?


Oswald implied GAUSS brought home the bacon.
suggesting the "soup density " and the Gauss strength were key to success.

Oswald also mentioned other successful replications,
Did you see any vids?
all the vids from back then of this working have been removed for "violations"[as the ones I posted above]


I had to run out of state for a few days ,my stew is brewing back home.

This will be a really big deal when we get some replications.

Which is what we were told this thread is all about!!

       OPEN SOURCE REPLICATION!!        [that would be nice]

Thanks
Chet PS
BTW
I have absolute confidence that what these young men have done is 100% true.
Lets take it up a notch fellas [Oswald and Chris]
We need your help and guidance with this [replication].

And I know many other young men of similar beliefs that would love to follow your lead.

[niofox]

My solution went a bit awry when I stirred it with an (unknown to me) aluminium spoon
I realized it was fishy when it started bubbling on the spoon itself
I quickly changed over to using a random piece of wood but I think I may have introduced unwanted contamination
Still, who knows, maybe that's what's missing (wishful thinking +5)
So here's my slightly syrupy solution after siphoning - looking much like watery honey

Also a snapshot of my initial try at the circuit I had in my head
The 555 Timer is putting out ~300Khz now.  I had to change my resistors and cap cuz for some reason it wasn't coming to what the calculations said it would ... maybe I was reading the capacitor value wrong or something.  I'm now using a 102 - 2KV ceramic cap, R1=220, R2=440.  I just have to figure out the next part with the transistor 

[Gwandau]

This part of a project where the first experiments are made is always the most fun part.

Anything may surface.

I have a feeling oswaldonfire is walking his talk, that he really has experienced what he talks about.
But I also have a feeling he somehow lost it along the way, and now needs help to pin it down to a repeatable
situation again. Just like John Hutchinton, who never really could repeat his gravity experiments,
because he never recorded the exact configurations.


dutchy1966,

your thoughts about the magnetolysis are interesting, although quite different to my own ideas about how the oswaldonfire-magnetolysis is facilitated.

Still, this is what makes cooperative research fruitful, and your attempt to relate to the common way of electrolysis
is very valuable, since this so called magnetolysis still probably just is ordinary electrolysis although very efficiently fed by the EM field.

Your concept of how the liquid electrodes are created seems to imply an unidirectional pulsed current through the coil,
created by a PWM and thus making the positive and negative ions separate into opposing parts of the container.

This assumes a stable opposing liquid ion disposition in the container regardless of strong liquid currents due to massive HHO production and heat,
which I personally am afraid will not be the case, since the solution will risk getting thorougly mixed the same instant HHO production starts.
But who knows? At this stage anything is possible.

Personally I will check out the perimenters of alternating electromagnetic fields expressed in a saturated NAOH-solution.

By expressing an alternating EM polarity into the liquid electrodes we may have a electrolytic cathode/anode situation
represented everywhere in the solution.

But there is so many unknown parameters to this riddle, that we can start wherever we want.

Maybe there is a certain resonance point hiding in the high frequency range of alternating EM polarities,
a resonance point triggering cavitation and all kind of stuff in the Planck range. Then we are dealing
with something quite different to ordinary electrolysis.

My own approach to this experiment will initially be by applying an alternating current through one single coil
placed around a cylindrical open container with saturated NAOH solution.

If needed, secondary experiments with two separate coils inducing interacting effects will be employed.

A friend of mine who is a developer in electronic control systems has promised me to come up with a nice solution
which will create a high frequency alternating EM pulse system that will be adjustable from 5 to 100 Watt and with
an adjustable frequency range between 50HZ and 1 MHZ.

This will allow me to employ a wide range of different high Gauss electromagnetic effects upon the NAOH solution.

He also told me a good start would be a high watt tone generator, like an ordinary amplifier, which is capable of
generating an alternating current strong enough to reach the gauss levels needed for the experiment.

Really looking forward to put it to test.

Gwandau