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The downfalls of conventional electrolysis - and how to fix them

Started by oswaldonfire, July 20, 2010, 11:30:31 AM

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oswaldonfire

Try again - and brown's gas and hho are the same thing. The salt will not do anything special to the gas, besides make it deadly.

dasimpson

i thoght that was why it got it's name browns gas and the the electrlite they are my only 2 ideas

anyway 00:45am here work at 06:30 and maybe an hour or so life left in batterys befor they knock off

so ill catch you tomorrow see if i worked out what other thing i could have in the house would be sodium

jikwan

im intrigued oswald
interesting way of presenting your piece

when i was still putting time and effort into hho,
these were my results and conclusions-

very thin guage wire was the only practical largest
surface area
i used it and got dismal output

its very tricky to work with and a constant worry
that a point in the wire might burn out or get loose
and touch its opposite

i found the optimum way of clearing hydrogen and
oxygen from clinging to the cell surface was vacuum electrolysis
this is connecting to inlet manifold directly
i used a large airstone as a flashback resistor
i got no flashbacks
use an airstone and you can throw the bubbler into the
garbage can where it belongs

but sodium and magnetic energy ive never come across before

microscopically, one sodium atom (if its a fairly round shape)
must be largest surface area possible

and magnetic energy is a form of electricity-right?

cant wait for the next installment
zen is the art of seeing everything and noticing nothing

bolt

I already explained no need to use ANYTHING other than pure water and no contact electrodes. Electrodes stay on the outside to make a capacitor then "contact" with every molecule of water is 100%.


CompuTutor

Quote from: oswaldonfire on July 20, 2010, 11:30:31 AM
What substance contains more surface area than anything else?

Tetrahedron nano stuructures,
like cutting edge batteries.

And I say tetrahedron, only because
the process is not refined enough yet,
to call them nano-spheres as due course...

But it isn't the boat (Surface area),
it is the motion of the ocean (Stimuli).

Electrolysis will evolve when we know
what stimuli's in harmony water needs...

But I respect your current approach,
for current "Bute-Force" methods.  :)



Atlantex suggested metalic powder,
sounds silly at first, right?

Consider the neutral-plate designs.

OK, they aren't really neutral,
just potential (Voltage) subdivisions.

Metallic powder,
suspended in water,
resonated into tripes
(Solid particles suspended into boundary layers by resonance in fluids)
would create "Virtual Plates".

The right sound + the right modulated voltage waveform
might negate the need for the neutral plates.

Something to ponder...