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The downfalls of conventional electrolysis - and how to fix them

Started by oswaldonfire, July 20, 2010, 11:30:31 AM

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iflewmyown

@Ramset,
This ought to tickle you.  I just had a few minutes in the shop to try Mookies idea. I had thought that his method of adding magnetism to the water was very inefficient and indeed maybe it was not the magnetism at all but only the 60hz vibration created by his plates shaking. I dug out an old 3/4 hp. motor core and set it on the bench. Next I found a plastic container that would just push into the hole where the armature used to fit. Of course there was not one piece of stainless in the shop that was attracted to a magnet. Since another theory running through my mind was that eddy currents were shaking the plates I decided to press on anyway. My plates were 316  .032 x 2" by 3.5". I have some polyethylene tube sleeve which is an open diamond weave flexible mesh used to protect expensive machine tools or the threads on the ends of tubing. I used a piece of the mesh to space the plates about 1/16" apart. Just one plate then the mesh then the last plate wedged in the center of the plastic container which was sitting in the center of the motor core. I used 6 volts from a battery charger to the plates. Filtered water and small amount of sodium hydroxide. I used a variac to power the motor core. With the variac at 50 volts a piece of alum or steel held in the core would vibrate at 60 hz. With the plates energized I slowly turn up the variac to full 120 vac. Only the tiny stream of bubbles that you would expect came to the surface. There was no difference with the magnetism or not.  Which is what Mookie said would happen.
Then I stuck a 1"x1"x3" ceramic magnet in the container and the magnet promptly stuck to the motor core. This time there was a difference with the variac on full but not as pronounced as in the video. Next I pulled out the magnet and the plates. Then I stuck a magnet onto each plate. Magnet,plate,mesh,plate,magnet like a sandwich. Back into the water to retest.
This was the real deal. With partial power the water boiled throughout its volume with millions of tiny bubbles. The surface was instantly covered with a mass of foam. No! I did not attempt to light it. I will later outside with a long flaming stick. The proverbial ten foot pole. My opinion at this early date is that it is just vibration. It is well worth pursuing and I will tomorrow.
Garry

ramset

Garry
Holy Crap!!
Consider me tickled,
Chaloopa says you get a free car wash!!
You Da Man!!
Chet
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

ramset

Sent Chris Hunter an E mail today

Sir
Have you been following?

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No.  I have been working on an advanced platform transport drive.  Skunkworks. Too much time spent working with a scanning electron microscope.

That....and winning $10K again from the Arctic Innovation Competition on Friday.

Chris

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Such a show off!!
Good for you Bud!!
Chet
PS'Gwuandau
Farrah has addressed Ohmasa Gas At her thread
here
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=399.msg6213;topicseen#msg6213

Or it might have been on her Dissasociate the molecule thread?
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

Mark69

Hey Chet, what is the chance after you get your replication working that you try to used the stainless mesh in a second experiment?  I am thinking that the more surface area and allowing the molecules to flow through the stainless as it is resonating will really get them excited..  Let me know what you think..
Mark

ramset

                 Once again I put out the call!!
       This will be an OPEN SOURCE replication!!
               Chris Hunter's {Felix Ehrenhart's]
                          And now MOOKIE'S
                           Magnetolysis
Luigi Palmieri deserves recognition as the original pioneer utilising magnetism for electrolysis . [1830]

                 ALL WILL BE SHARED.     ALL!!
      This is some really exciting stuff folks and I hope to see it put in simple enough terms ,so that all will be able to see this for themselves,the more replicators the faster we get to the goal!!

@Mark,
This opens A whole new door ,well reopens an old door that somebody shut 80 years ago,
I think we'll figure a way to make that heater buddy!!
At least bring it into the realm of "plausible".
We shall see??

Chet
PS speaking of heat,
Garry be careful with that!! the whole solution could
POP not just the vapor!![Or it coul;d just go PHFfiiit]
Better use a 20 foot pole or get one of these[blast chamber]
looks like Smoosh and me are gonna "GET BUSY"
Thats the blast chamber in her claw.
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma