The downfalls of conventional electrolysis - and how to fix them

[Goat]

@ All

Just found some useful info of a replication that didn't work...

http://www.chrismarion.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=100&Itemid=205

Perhaps this info can be used to eliminate some of the variables that don't work in the replication of the original experiment....

Regards,
Paul

[Goat]

@ All

I was thinking and looking into info on Sodium Hydroxide Solutions (Specific gravity compared to water) and wondering if the problem of over coming the boiling off and replacing the NaOH solution being burned off with fresh water could be overcome with a 5 gallon of fresh water being supplied to the bottom of the the small of 1" (1 Inch) PVC tube of NaOH solution by the way of a float system similar to a toilet tank or any other float system. 
 
The idea is pretty simple, keep a big reservoir topped up via a float system feeding the smaller 1" (1 Inch) PVC tube of NaOH solution topped up as it is depleting the ammount of solution being "boiled off" as HHO. 

Question is I can't find an answer as to top feed or bottom feed the water to the 1" (1 Inch) PVC tube of NaOH solution because of the specific gravity difference between water and the NaOH solution.

Hope this isn't too confusing for those that have a chemistry background and actually understand what I'm asking here.

Regards,
Paul



http://www.jtbaker.com/msds/englishhtml/s4037.htm

[sergenet]

I do not have a chemistry background but I would think since you would want to keep the solution saturated, then you would add the water from the direction that would force it to flow to the opposite end and thus mix with the existing solution. Meaning whichever is heavier then feed the water from the opposite end.

[gsmsslsb]

I am replicating with the instructions that we have so far.
I wound 1000 turns of .5mm copper magnet wire in two layers over 10 inches of one inch PVC.
I have a variable frequency driver with a 555 timer running a 2n3055 transistor.
I have been mixing naoh into the water for two days now but it just keeps eating it.
I have added at least a kilo of naoh pearls to 2.5 litres of water in small lots so it doesn't boil
Each time I come back there is a little precipitate but then I add more and it disolves in so I am still adding.

[Goat]

I do not have a chemistry background but I would think since you would want to keep the solution saturated, then you would add the water from the direction that would force it to flow to the opposite end and thus mix with the existing solution. Meaning whichever is heavier then feed the water from the opposite end.

@ sergenet

Thanks for the response, I think one would need to feed the water from the bottom of the PVC reaction tube because water is lighter in specific gravity than a solution of NaOH in water.

In section 9 of the msds sheet from the link I posted earlier http://www.jtbaker.com/msds/englishhtml/s4034.htm it mentions the following:

Solubility:
111 g/100 g of water.
Specific Gravity:
2.13

So being that water is lighter it would need to be added from the bottom of the PVC tube otherwise if you added it from the top it would sit on top of the solution.

This whole point might be moot as the solution is being agitated as it is being pulsed by the coil and the water would probably mix into it.

I'm just trying to figure out which kind of fittings and hoses to get and where they should be hooked up on the PVC tube.

Regards,
Paul