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The downfalls of conventional electrolysis - and how to fix them

Started by oswaldonfire, July 20, 2010, 11:30:31 AM

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LtBolo

@ramset

I am so sick and tired of people on this and other forums that do this self righteous 'business is bad' bull$hit. The reason that nothing has been done on this is because an experimenter in his garage has precisely zero chance of making anything useful out of this. In order for the public at large to benefit it will take design, testing, agency approval, manufacturing, marketing, sales, etc. Do you have the resources to do that? If so, you are likely a business. If not, then you have no hope of helping the broadest group of people.

It is a complete mystery to me how people can say they want society changed while simultaneously attacking the people that have the best chance of making it happen.

I have made no sales pitch...although your boy Chris has sold boards to folks. Last time I checked, when somebody sells somebody else something in exchange for money...that's what we call a 'business'.

I don't want your money...I have plenty...and Lord knows I don't need this crap to make more. My point in mentioning that I was a business interest was simply to say that I have the engineering and financial resources to invest...and a willingness to do so...when somebody has given me any reason to believe that there is good reason.

ramset

LtBolo
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@ramset

I am so sick and tired of people on this and other forums that do this self righteous 'business is bad' bull$hit. The reason that nothing has been done on this is because an experimenter in his garage has precisely zero chance of making anything useful out of this. In order for the public at large to benefit it will take design, testing, agency approval, manufacturing, marketing, sales, etc. Do you have the resources to do that? If so, you are likely a business. If not, then you have no hope of helping the broadest group of people.

It is a complete mystery to me how people can say they want society changed while simultaneously attacking the people that have the best chance of making it happen.

I have made no sales pitch...although your boy Chris has sold boards to folks. Last time I checked, when somebody sells somebody else something in exchange for money...that's what we call a 'business'.

I don't want your money...I have plenty...and Lord knows I don't need this crap to make more. My point in mentioning that I was a business interest was simply to say that I have the engineering and financial resources to invest...and a willingness to do so...when somebody has given me any reason to believe that there is good reason.
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Its not in the best interests of this thread to poke and jab!
Sorry Bud![that's an apology on my part]

Chet
PS
The design as presented ,can change this world

one garage at a time!

This doesn't appear to need Procter and Gamble to do research.

Never underestimate
MOM and POP!!
Too many walmarts not enough Mom and Pop!!
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

LtBolo

Please know that my intentions are honorable. I do get the slightest bit frustrated with the prevailing attitude about business. Business is neither good nor evil...it is a tool. People are good or evil, and their business practice is an expression of who they are.

I appreciate your positive attitude about incremental change. It is romantic, but nevertheless naive. Real change will only occur when you can buy a free energy generator at Walmart for $100. It doesn't take P&G to do that, but it does take resources. My company designs and manufactures electronics that are sold all over the world. We have the resources and experience to take a concept to product, and a product to market. We also have the desire.

I just need to see bubbles formed in an ionic solution, excited by a magnetic field, produced by a reasonable amount of power...

niofox

Here's what I just cobbled together in TinyCAD
I know there's many things wrong with it, but not sure what           

The symbols for the SigGen and Ground are different since I couldn't find anything more adequate in the toolbox provided

The "Load?" part I wasn't sure if that should be there, or what should be there exactly, so I just threw in a neon symbol

The values for the solenoids I haven't planned out properly yet and are subject to change based on feedback

So, the question is, am I doing complete nonsense here?  Or do I have the general idea but got things all wrong on the circuit layout?

StihlWoody

Something given has no value.

Anything worth having or doing never comes easily or quickly.

StihlWoody