FATHER OF WATER POWER CAR - Stanley Meyer's SECRET

[kolbacict]

https://overunity.com/18865/low-temperature-catalytic-thermolysis-of-water/msg575130/#msg575130
Well, this is where the dude got the real results.
So no one pays attention.

[h20power]

Hi All,

These claims are just that, it's becoming a circus bringing up old claims that nobody has produce a working model.

If Stanley Meyers system really work, then why was he sued for false claims?

Some information people need to read:

In 1996, inventor Stanley Meyer was sued by two investors to whom he had sold dealerships, offering the right to do business in Water Fuel Cell technology. His car was due to be examined by the expert witness Michael Laughton, Professor of Electrical Engineering at Queen Mary, University of London and Fellow of the Royal Academy of Engineering. However, Meyer made what Professor Laughton considered a "lame excuse" on the days of examination and did not allow the test to proceed.[3] According to Meyer the technology was patent pending and under investigation by the patent office, the Department of Energy and the military.[14] His "water fuel cell" was later examined by three witnesses in court who found that there "was nothing revolutionary about the cell at all and that it was simply using conventional electrolysis". The court found Meyer guilty of "gross and egregious fraud" and ordered him to repay the two investors their $25,000.[3]

Meyer demonstrated a dune buggy which he claimed was powered by his water fuel cell. He estimated that only 22 US gallons (83 liters) of water were required to travel from Los Angeles to New York.[8] Furthermore, Meyer claimed to have replaced the spark plugs with "injectors" to spray a fine mist of water into the engine cylinders, which were subjected to an electrical resonance. The water fuel cell would split the water mist into hydrogen and oxygen gas, which would then be combusted back into water vapor in a conventional internal combustion engine to produce net energy.[3] Philip Ball, writing in academic journal Nature, characterized Meyer's claims as pseudoscience, noting that "It's not easy to establish how Meyer's car was meant to work, except that it involved a fuel cell that was able to split water using less energy than was released by recombination of the elements ... Crusaders against pseudoscience can rant and rave as much as they like, but in the end they might as well accept that the myth of water as a fuel is never going to go away."[2]
There is no documented proof that the system produces enough hydrogen to run an engine. To date no peer review studies of Meyer's devices have been published in the scientific literature, although his claims have been thoroughly discredited in scientific journals.

Lets be very clear, these false claims people are making today needs to be called out. Without a true working prototypes these past claims on UO need to stop. It really hurts those who are looking for real facts and a working prototypes.

The only way we can work together is to look in the past and not to repeat the same old BS.

Stanley Meyers was a con-man, if he really believe he was saving the world and God showed him this technology then why was he looking for money?

I stand by my own claims of keep it open source, until you all realize money is not the answer to true freedom of free energy. We are no different then Big oil and any other greedy person.

Nobody will create free energy if they think of the money, a 5 cent bullet would make anyone disappear. Another reason it need to be open source and free for all!

Tom

Hello Tom,


I run into people like you all the time that don't understand the simple science I just posted that shows mathematically just how the technology works but there is more as if you ever took the time to ready my thread then you will also see that I provided examples of this type of water separation taking place in nature and with man made stuff. It's not that complicated now that I have uncovered the science behind the technology and shared it in an Open Source format such as this site. The hard part is learning how to build it correctly as it cost a lot of money doing thing the proper way making use of the scientific method through trial and error testing as I am currently doing right now.


Long ago the bar was set telling us that no one could put high voltage to a container full of water and when I did it that bar simply got moved to a higher requirement. If this technology was easy everyone would be doing it but some key things that would have allowed everyone to have replications of their own where lost in time as that converted alternator was traded in for a core charge by the guy that knew Meyer. The injectors never actually worked as Meyer made some mistakes and those mistakes he made made it so the injectors simply wouldn't work as designed. In fact so many false truths have been put out about this technology that will steer folks away from a working prototype it truly isn't funny.


In time this technology will out as if it's in the scriptures then it will come to pass as the creator is not a man that he would lie.


So, if this technology was Open Sourced the cost to build it properly is what would prevent folks from ever giving it a try as trust me that cost is really high due to all the materials, tools, measuring devices, and other related equipment that needs to be brought just so one could work on this technology. As everything you have seen me buy you too would have to buy if you wanted to build this technology and have a shot of getting it to work properly. That simply talk that Meyer put out was just a lie to keep people off of his tale concerning would be copycats.


Well, I have more to say on this but I have to go as it's time for me to get back to work. As seen in the photo you also need to be prepared to fail.


Edward Mitchell
Owner
True Green Solutions.

[TommeyReed]

 Hi    h20power,

Let just get to the real facts, prove it and stop claiming you have proof!

Why not add the $$$, Stanley Meyers did that too!

So you're saying Stanley Meyer didn't get sued for fraud, and this is a government conspiracy?

The amount of watts needed to make HHO in a electrolysis, is far greater then the BTU you get out of HHO. 1 watt =3.41 BTU. Until you really understand the true power needed to make enough HHO, the system start making steam between these crazy idea of plates designs of 2 volts!

What really gets me is all the claims of using frequency and pwms to make this special magic is just unproven to this day. It takes WATTS, not magic!

Also people are just either foolish or not knowing  these two gases mixed together are not made for running any IC engine, a real electrolysis not these cookie jar with magic sauce mixture everyone talks about.

Electrolysis is used to separates hydrogen and oxygen.

Even when you just collect enough hydrogen, you still will have a lost of energy in vs energy out!

h20power, maybe you need to rethink calling out me who knows about HHO and just prove to everyone you have a running engine.

I know a friend who ran a 8hp engine that just idle under no load, he used 11kw of power!

Let me just get to the point, prove it before making false claims with foolish drawings. This Stanley Meyers claims are getting old, there have been experts in the field that couldn't duplicate his claims for years!

Tom

[h20power]

Hi    h20power,

Let just get to the real facts, prove it and stop claiming you have proof!

Why not add the $$$, Stanley Meyers did that too!

So you're saying Stanley Meyer didn't get sued for fraud, and this is a government conspiracy?

The amount of watts needed to make HHO in a electrolysis, is far greater then the BTU you get out of HHO. 1 watt =3.41 BTU. Until you really understand the true power needed to make enough HHO, the system start making steam between these crazy idea of plates designs of 2 volts!

What really gets me is all the claims of using frequency and pwms to make this special magic is just unproven to this day. It takes WATTS, not magic!

Also people are just either foolish or not knowing  these two gases mixed together are not made for running any IC engine, a real electrolysis not these cookie jar with magic sauce mixture everyone talks about.

Electrolysis is used to separates hydrogen and oxygen.

Even when you just collect enough hydrogen, you still will have a lost of energy in vs energy out!

h20power, maybe you need to rethink calling out me who knows about HHO and just prove to everyone you have a running engine.

I know a friend who ran a 8hp engine that just idle under no load, he used 11kw of power!

Let me just get to the point, prove it before making false claims with foolish drawings. This Stanley Meyers claims are getting old, there have been experts in the field that couldn't duplicate his claims for years!

Tom

Hey Tom,


I already have all the proof I need as scientific proof is proof unless you now don't believe in science either. What bothers me is right in this forum Steffen posted what actually happened in Meyer's day in court right here: [size=78%]https://overunity.com/7034/the-stan-meyer-case-setting-it-straight-finally/[/size] And people like you never bother to read anything and just come in blasting things you have no idea about because all you tend to get your news information from is the main stream sources.


As for the science I shared openly in this forum it's real but the reader must have the proper education level to be able to understand it as after all I did make use of the scientific method to get at this technology's secrets. I find that most people talking about this technology are about as smart as a bag of rocks. Most don't know how to interpret the readings on a oscilloscope, or perform proper scientific experiments, and are totally lacking in the basic level of education needed to attempt to understand this technology let alone get the technology up and running plus have understanding of just how to go about implementing the technology. Most simply aren't willing to put their money where their mouth is with this technology as there is so much that one needs to buy, design, and build and failure will be a common theme until the rest of the secrets I haven't figured out are solved. I fully admit I don't share everything I know as all I promised to do back in the day was to share the science behind this technology if I ever figured it out and I kept that promise.


As for me personally things take time as I'm a working stiff like most other people and have to save my hard earned cash to buy the things I need for this technology. Sure I do get some donations which I am truly grateful for but for the most part all of the spending you see me doing comes out of my own pockets. Once I had the science solved it was on to learning just how to build or not build the technology which I have to make use of the trail and error methodology on. It cost a lot of money to design and build prototypes and over the years I have learned by way of this trial and error testing method what to do or not to do. With each and every failure there was a lesson to be learned and more questions to asked and answered. One thing I don't need to do is prove anything to the likes of you as just who are you? I don't know you and have never seen or heard of you doing anything with your life as to garner my attention other than be disrespectful to the dead and compare apples to walnuts trying to make some sort of comparison between this technology and electrolysis. So, like everyone else you too must wait until I complete my task working at my own pace for if you don't wish to wait then you are more than welcome to get there before I do.


Just to give you some idea how different this technology is from the electrolysis method let me ask you what happens to a plant if you put a salt, acid, or base on it's roots? You kill the plant correct? Well, the same goes for this technology as if you put some salt, acid, or base in the water you prevent this technology from working. You see the bonds of the water molecules are being broken down in much the same way a plant goes about breaking the bonds of the water molecules with it's end steps. But know this technology most directly mimics a thunderstorm in how it works, but sadly mainstream science doesn't actually know just how a thunderstorm works.


Since I seem to be the only one that I know of that has shown high voltage being applied to a WFC in a provable manor I find myself standing alone for over thirteen years now. Since people simply will not follow my lead they never get any high voltage being applied to their WFC's. But since I am poor it takes me awhile to save up for the things I need so my pace is slow. But as I said everyone can jump in and beat me to the punch if the wanted too as it's a free world, right? This technology will come out when it's the right time for it to do so and not a moment sooner.


Well, time to go again as I need my rest.
Shalom,
Edward Mitchell
Owner
True Green Solutions
https://gofund.me/94431e56

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