Ronald Classen's H2O Motor Project

[jalal]

IT BECOMES HOT AFTER 15 MIN, BUT WITH LESS PRODUCTION

[DADINK]

jalal the best voltage for producing hydrogen  is 1.25-1.35 volts, this seems to
be what is documented frequently as the best, tweaking the current/amperage,
anodes/cathodes/ h20 salinity and other things also help get marginal gains, much like souping up an engine. The problem is.....
the engines you are using, they are made for gasoline,diesel/propane, the engines of today are dinosaurs and the fuels are nothing like any kind of h2/02
mixtures, I have spent over 5 years designing an engine, to run on any fuel,
but until I build it it is "speculation" I consider my engine only 50% completed until it becomes a physical reality. I am also disgruntled  that I devoted over 5 years of my time to this,then asking for any kind of assistance to speed up the prototype's build and I am still flying solo and feeling "paranoid" I don't find this fair but I will carry on just like the majority here operating on shoestring budgets and making due with what they have. But I'll tell you it's DAMN hard building a
mechanical device that betters todays technology with no assistance, no
consultation with professionals, no sponsors/grants,no support,no existing bolt on pre manufactured technology,no studies or technology even remotely related to it,. It just sucks. I feel like I'm building a plane from scratch, but enough whining,
If any1 knows how to build or where to get a hundred horsepower or so turbine
or airmotor let me know, I don't want to build 1 if I don't have to,
thanx.

[DADINK]

since this thread is where a lot of combustion happens I would like to ask a few questions and will probobly duplicate these questions in my questions post.
I would really appreciate if any1 knows the temperature of pure hydrolysis h2/02
combustion, how hot is it burning??? not to be confused with a h2/02 mixed with atospheric air.
Also rlm555339  I believe you should try NOT to combust atmospheric air. Try to accomplish burning ONLY the products of your electrolysis, if that means a way smaller engine so be it, it might be quite powerful, I really don't know until I have
some sort of experimentation area chock full of goodies.You also said you're combustion mixture will self combust"detonate" @ 400psi "general information"
I disagree, for an example I'll use a diesel engine, diesels suck in an air charge the piston goes up compressing that air charge to lets say 1500psi at top dead centre or a little b4 which then = combustion with no help from spark or glow plugs. why? when the charge of air is compressed to that pressure at that speed it becomes very hot, hot enough to cause that fuel to explode once injected. the psi really has no bearing, what matters is how hot the compressed gas is. you could pump a container with h2 or 02 or both to 1500 psi if you kept it's heat down by pumping slowly and or cooling the said container otherwise kablam.
also the products of your electrolytic separation would love nothing more than to recombine with eachother back into water so it's best to keep them separated until detonation for maximum combustability. I apologize if this has been no help.
At the least it was an excercise for me.

[jalal]

Property     ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Hydrogen   Methane    Propane    Gasoline
Specific Gravity at NTP     ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?0.07    0,55    1,52    4,0
Normal Boiling Point (K)     ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?20,3    111,6    231    310-478
Critical Pressure (atm)     ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?12,8    45,4    41,9    24,5-27
Density of Liquid at NTP (kg/L)     ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?0,0708    0,4225    0,5077    0,70
Density of Gas at NTP (kg/m3)     ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?0,838    0,6512    1,96    4,40
Density Ratio, NTP Liquid/NTP Gas    845    649    259    150
Diffusion Coefficients in NTP air (cm2/s)    0,61    0,16    0,1    0,05
Diffusion Velocity in NTP air (cm/s)    2    0,51    0,34    0,34
Quenching Gap in NTP Air (mm)     ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?0,64    2,03    1,78    2
Limits of Detonation in Air Vol (%)    18.3-59    6.3-13.5    3.4-35    1.1-3.3
Minimum Energy for Ignition in Air (mJ)    0.02    0.29    0.305    0.24
Auto ignition Temperature (K)     ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?858    813    740    501-744
Flame Temperature in Air (K)     ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?2318    2148    2243    2470
Maximum Burning Velocity in NTP Air (cm/s)    278    37-45    43-52    37-43
Energy of Stoichometric Mixture (MJ/m3)    3.58    3.58    3.79    3.91
Specific heat at constant pressure (J/g K)    14.89    2,22       1,2
Ignition limits in air (vol %)     ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?4-75    5.3-15       1.0-7.6
Ignition energy in air (mJ)     ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?0.02    0.29       0.24
Ignition temperature (CËš)     ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 585    540       228-471

*Note:
NTP : Normal Temperature and Pressure .= 1atm (101.325 KPas) and 293.15 K (20 CËš ).

I HOPE THE ABOVE INFORMATION WILL HELP YOU, IT CONTAINS THE PROPARATIES OF Hydrogen   ,Methane ,   Propane ,   Gasoline .

REGARDS
JALAL

[DADINK]

it helps but I still have a question, maybe I did my math wrong but I was looking at
93.15 K (20 CËš ). I did the math with that on flame temperature and I got 158.14 CËš
That can't be correct, could some 1 help, I was hoping pure h2 02 combustion would be
high temperature in around "2300 CËš"