Ronald Classen's H2O Motor Project

[kenbo0422]

Ron,

I think they use DC on subs....  The hydrogen is kinda whisked away, so collection has to be done from one electrode powered from the onboard 'many hundred kilowatt' generators.

On another note....  The DC can be pulsed (42.8Khz)..... Maybe the key is not letting the voltage get too low on the bottom of the cycle so you don't have to kick start the process each time.  The resonant frequency may actually differ.  I don't know how calibrated those old findings were and the true numbers may also depend on temperature, purity (even with acid added) and possibly the size of the container.  A 'modern' setup would monitor and then control these parameters, especially after the ultimate frequency is found and tracked.  Food for thought....

[Kysmett]

I have been thinking about resonant freqs and bonding states.  If a bond were to be thought of like a bridge(humor me on this) and the material/energy that makes up that bridge had a resonant frequency, based on length among other things, then there should be a weakening of that bond as resonant frequencies and harmonics set up nodes in the bond itself.  It might 'shake' itself apart.  I read that the resonant frequency of water is about 2.5 GHz, in the microwave region.  That is for the whole molecule.  I am thinking about the bond itself.  Still working on this kernel of thought, I'll let you know if anything worthwhile grows.

Here is a link to look at that I have found http://www.csudh.edu/oliver/che230/textbook/spec07.htm

[rlm555339]

Microwaves rattling water molecules make steam.  Steam doesn't explode so it must simply be an expanded water molecule with the hydrogen/oxygen bond still intact.

Opposite polarities of 1.5 vdc tears those bonds assunder.  Maybe a good combination would be to apply the 1.5 volts in addition to adding a frequency of the appropriate magnitude.  (whatever that is)  Perhaps then we could just dissociate a whole container of water in one huge high-energy pulse.  POOF!  - - one second you have one cubic foot of water, the next second 1800 cu. ft. of hydroxy.  Wouldn't THAT be a wonderful thing?   

Please figure that one out and let's both get rich on it.

[Kysmett]

microwaves in the range used in ovens do make steam.  But they are calibrated to that purpose, sending out 2.45GHz, instead of the 2.5, or perhaps a tad higher.  Just enough to 'rattle' them maybe and use the elasicity of the bond to help with the heat creation, but perhaps a little higher, more tuned frequency would dissociate them...an adverse reaction for someone warming up a cup of coffee, so obviously one whose avoidance is designed into the appliance.

Again just a thought kernel...I need to do some more research on the bond mechanics and physical properties.

[fleebell]

I wonder if that strange effect where water will barely  boil in the microwave but flashes into steam when you move the cup or whatever has anything to do with it (I know the water is just superheated) In other words if you apply the 1.5 -3 volts to it when it is in that state do you get just steam or a mixture of steam , h2 and oxygen?  You might very well get the bang you spoke of although I dont want to be around close when you do.
Lee B