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Magnacoaster - Vorktex

Started by kyler, August 03, 2010, 11:45:23 AM

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kyler

Whats the latest from Magnacoaster. I am considering buying a unit.  Is this company ligit or not?

Kyler

broli

If you feel comfortable throwing thousands of dollars in a black pit then go ahead. Hoaxtex is known for being very bad at delivering products and refunds.

bolt

Quote from: kyler on August 03, 2010, 11:45:23 AM
Whats the latest from Magnacoaster. I am considering buying a unit.  Is this company ligit or not?

Kyler

Make your own its a lot cheaper and easier to do.  The reason magnacoaster not shipping is he has set his eyes on 5KW+ systems which make the system much harder to control. The technology works and has been in expired patents for decades.

Pulse a coil between neo magnets and the rebound power is MUCH higher. Thats basically it.

mscoffman

Quote from: bolt on August 03, 2010, 02:02:28 PM
Make your own its a lot cheaper and easier to do.  The reason magnacoaster not shipping is he has set his eyes on 5KW+ systems which make the system much harder to control. The technology works and has been in expired patents for decades.

Pulse a coil between neo magnets and the rebound power is MUCH higher. Thats basically it.

This 5KW or higher figure for a FE device is does not indicate very much smarts.

It would be much better to build a 1.5KW device that runs continuously and
stores unused power in an equivalent to an electrical car battery - which are rapidly decreasing in cost. AND/OR use utility intertie power averaging. The reason is: in worst case a house needs 25KW instantaneous not 5KW. But at the same time only 1.5KW average. So there is big difference between absolute max and average, which seems to call for a buffer.

Trying to design a device with what engineers call; a fast power slew rate
is much harder then designing something that runs continuously at constant
power. This goes for building vehicle engines as well. And running something
that can generate 5KW is probably going to be wasting some energy or
having wasted hardware resources most of the time.

While it's harder to do something right, it's usually worthwhile it in the end.
Bigger devices for heat,electric auto,businesses etc. but they will still need
a buffer. It seems someone who studied the industry should know this.

:S:MarkSCoffman

bolt

Quote from: mscoffman on August 03, 2010, 03:03:46 PM
This 5KW or higher figure for a FE device is does not indicate very much smarts.

It would be much better to build a 1.5KW device that runs continuously and
stores unused power in an equivalent to an electrical car battery - which are rapidly decreasing in cost. AND/OR use utility intertie power averaging. The reason is: in worst case a house needs 25KW instantaneous not 5KW. But at the same time only 1.5KW average. So there is big difference between absolute max and average, which seems to call for a buffer.

Trying to design a device with what engineers call; a fast power slew rate
is much harder then designing something that runs continuously at constant
power. This goes for building vehicle engines as well. And running something
that can generate 5KW is probably going to be wasting some energy or
having wasted hardware resources most of the time.

While it's harder to do something right, it's usually worthwhile it in the end.
Bigger devices for heat,electric auto,businesses etc. but they will still need
a buffer. It seems someone who studied the industry should know this.

:S:MarkSCoffman

You need to read about everything he has done so far before jumping to conclusions. The reason for going for 5kw and 10kw+ is for many reasons. When he started to get good results he took his system to a test house. They said it will cost you $1/2mio to get type approval on a new energy source unless you piggy back into existing technology. This is the main reason for the delay over the last few years.

So he went into solar NOT because it needs it but its the ONLY way to piggy into existing energy frame work in order to meet all the State approvals not just in Canada but other countries too.

SO a single small solar panel of around 25 watts will run the oscillator backed up by a small gell battery and the power device will be grid tied. In Canada they are paying something like 18 cents a unit SOLAR that can be pushed back into the grid so the entire system will pay for itself using rebates within say 5 years. The high price incentive is to relief the failing infrastructure a problem most countries now have around the world. Its cheaper to pay people a few cents more then build a new power station and pay carbon tax.

The average house will still be ON grid for peak demand where more then 12kw is required for short bursts. The other 20 hours a day may only need 1Kw so the excess is 11kw going back collecting rebates. So after messing around the last couple of years trying to solve massive overheating problems and plasma balls forming around the coils he had another set back after it was found when grid tied the power unit was pushing KW's of RF noise into the grid as well as RF noise being transmitted. He cant get pass FCC approvals till this sorted. Already spent the last year making screened Faraday boxes etc but the actual device works its everything else is the problem including inverters that can handle up-to 20KW peaks they don't come cheap.

This is NOT going to be a cheap system its going to compete with solar so a 15KW solar system starts around $30k and goes up fast the more batteries and panels you need.

The few people that go OFF grid of course will lose the rebates AND lose the peak demand buffer and for those people its really a case of mind training to know the system limitations. In other words don't expect to run the heating, take a hot shower, put 4 TV's on, run the microwave and washing machine and clothes dryer all at the same time. If you want that it will cost you a fortune rather then spreading the loads.

Now you know why i said just make one, the technology works perfectly and no special devices needed if you keep under 500 watts. Its only over this power you need lots of $200 IGBTS and $100 PUCK 500 amp surge high speed diodes etc. And the inverter alone probably cost another $6K or $7K.

There is no such thing as FREE energy even if you run your house off the TPU you need about 10 of them maybe more if they need to be cycled to allow cooing time,  plus the inverters will still cost 10k for the cheapest system.