magnetic perpetual motion machine design

[WilbyInebriated]

I would suggest to focus on the obvious possible. The word 'impossible' is used because a conservative force cannot be a source of energy! Unless you are heavy one day and light or weightless the other day, gravity are not conservative. This has not happen in the history of the universe. This is something we must accept. Also accept that something are impossible. Maybe another time in another universe with another laws, the impossible would be possible:)

i would suggest you drop the delusions of grandeur. now you are talking about the 'history of the universe'? please continue with this hilarious line of reasoning. go on, tell us all about the history of the universe. were you a witness to it all? are you expecting us to believe that you have witnessed the entire 'history of the universe'? please, tell us how it all began or even if it had a beginning at all... so you go from one megalomaniacal claim (that you know the future) to another megalomaniacal claim (that you know the entire past), too funny. you using the word impossible implies that you know the entire future of the multiverse. i will accept no such thing, and i will describe it for what it is... megalomaniacal.  some things MAY BE impossible, you however, are NOT the one to tell us what those things are, and your doing so is indicative of mental issues.  you, along with science, cannot even fully explain gravity... i suppose next you will be telling us the theory of relativity is proven.

[Low-Q]

The history of the universe is not what I am talking about - I wasn't there when it happend. If you know the answer to 1 + 1, you will soon understand that the universe has been affected by gravity for quite some time. There are numberless of results, events in the universe that tells us in more and more detail how it has been created - no problem - we know quite a lot of the universe to determine how objects and gravity affects each other.
Even if we cannot understand gravity, we know very well how it affects objects, and the universe.

When it comes to knowledge about things: Babies and small children do not drown in the water because they don't know what water consist of - we just know small kids can drown in the water regardless of how much we know about the water - you cannot automticly float, just by describing the water. The same with gravity - we will fall down to the ground if we jump from a bridge - regardless of the knowledge of gravity. We know it's there, we know it affects objects in a constant rate depending on the objects weight and size.

No one can proove we cannot float weightless in thin air. No one can proove we cannot jump to the moon, or swollow the sun. Just because no one hase made it yet, doesnt mean it is impossible? Oh, I forgot - it is ofcourse possible. We just have to wait till we have more knowledge

Vidar

[WilbyInebriated]

The history of the universe is not what I am talking about - I wasn't there when it happend. If you know the answer to 1 + 1, you will soon understand that the universe has been affected by gravity for quite some time. There are numberless of results, events in the universe that tells us in more and more detail how it has been created - no problem - we know quite a lot of the universe to determine how objects and gravity affects each other.
Even if we cannot understand gravity, we know very well how it affects objects, and the universe.

When it comes to knowledge about things: Babies and small children do not drown in the water because they don't know what water consist of - we just know small kids can drown in the water regardless of how much we know about the water - you cannot automticly float, just by describing the water. The same with gravity - we will fall down to the ground if we jump from a bridge - regardless of the knowledge of gravity. We know it's there, we know it affects objects in a constant rate depending on the objects weight and size.

No one can proove we cannot float weightless in thin air. No one can proove we cannot jump to the moon, or swollow the sun. Just because no one hase made it yet, doesnt mean it is impossible? Oh, I forgot - it is ofcourse possible. We just have to wait till we have more knowledge

Vidar

when you can, to my satisfaction, fully explain 'gravity' then i will bow to your knowledge of what is possible with it... other than that i suggest you learn the not so subtle difference between improbable and impossible.

[Low-Q]

I do not think that "conventional thinking" about gravitywheels or magnetmotors will contribute to anything than yet another disappointment. Gravity isn't hard to explain, it's hard to understand. We know that gravity is related to mass. Increasing or decreasing mass will at last make a working gravitywheel, but we do not have the knowledge or tools to move, destroy or create mass without use of energy. Mass are energy, so therefor mass and energy are related. This is also something we have to relate to when we consider to seek solutions in gravitypowered machines.

Gravity is also a very interesting subject to discuss, and there are a lot of different explanations to it. I have made my own thoughts, and are also inspired by the general science about the subject. I think gravity is some sort of potential that was created from something that had to give. I think something has "charged" mass with a certain potential, but this potential wants to equalize into zero by attracting mass together again. I have however no explanation to gravity, but I am sure gravity has a counterforce or an oposite potential - like the potential between + and - on an electric battery. Something had to give in order to create gravity and the potential difference - what that would be could be something that explains the expansion of the universe. If antimatter had an oposite gravity - "levity" - it could explain the expansion. OR expansion is just something that appears to be...

I think it is both smart and less time consuming by relating to present knowledge of gravity and magnetism - we know enough to be smart enough to let it be and seek other solutions. There is plenty of free energy perpetual motion machines out there - the difference is that these machines are ran by external power - the sun - and owned by big companies that suck money out of your pocket. If you are smart, do the best out of something you already know works, and create free energy where you live. Non of us have to pay the goverment to power our households if we can manage to harvest the free energy ourself. It's right here, right outside our doorstep in the next few billion years!

Vidar

[WilbyInebriated]

I do not think that "conventional thinking" about gravitywheels or magnetmotors will contribute to anything than yet another disappointment. Gravity isn't hard to explain, it's hard to understand. We know that gravity is related to mass. Increasing or decreasing mass will at last make a working gravitywheel, but we do not have the knowledge or tools to move, destroy or create mass without use of energy. Mass are energy, so therefor mass and energy are related. This is also something we have to relate to when we consider to seek solutions in gravitypowered machines.

if it isn't hard to explain, then please reconcile the 'gravity paradox' with a rigorous proof...

Gravity is also a very interesting subject to discuss, and there are a lot of different explanations to it. I have made my own thoughts, and are also inspired by the general science about the subject. I think gravity is some sort of potential that was created from something that had to give. I think something has "charged" mass with a certain potential, but this potential wants to equalize into zero by attracting mass together again. I have however no explanation to gravity, but I am sure gravity has a counterforce or an oposite potential - like the potential between + and - on an electric battery. Something had to give in order to create gravity and the potential difference - what that would be could be something that explains the expansion of the universe. If antimatter had an oposite gravity - "levity" - it could explain the expansion. OR expansion is just something that appears to be...

it certainly is an interesting subject. everyone has their own conjecture it seems. there are plenty of gravity threads, let us not monopolize this one since it relates to magnets.

I think it is both smart and less time consuming by relating to present knowledge of gravity and magnetism - we know enough to be smart enough to let it be and seek other solutions. There is plenty of free energy perpetual motion machines out there - the difference is that these machines are ran by external power - the sun - and owned by big companies that suck money out of your pocket. If you are smart, do the best out of something you already know works, and create free energy where you live. Non of us have to pay the goverment to power our households if we can manage to harvest the free energy ourself. It's right here, right outside our doorstep in the next few billion years!

Vidar

"we know enough to be smart enough to let it be and seek other solutions."? who is we? who else are you speaking for? i do agree with you about not having to pay someone to power our households, i harvest all the time...