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Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!

Started by lasersaber, September 01, 2010, 09:59:28 PM

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Rosemary Ainslie

Quote from: Magneticitist on September 13, 2010, 06:58:00 AM
when i see a battery "ghost charge" voltage back up i dont link that to stressing of the plates. nor do i say its the plates stressing when my electrolytic caps charge themselves up to around 5V on their own.
I never knew this.  Does a cap measure a voltage - in the same way as a transistor? 

Quote from: Magneticitist on September 13, 2010, 06:58:00 AMto me this is the Earth's radiant energy doing this.. when using a Joule Thief with very low switching sensitivity it can be seen better, as the battery drops below switching voltage the LED will start to blink, because the atmosphere is brining its voltage back up automatically, until switching V is hit again and the cycle repeats. the LED will blink until the rate at which the atmospheric intake is not enough to overcome the low voltage in the battery and sustain a steady oscillation.
I get it.  You're attributing the lowering of the voltage to the discharge in the LED - but the sustained discharge requires some interaction with the atmosphere? aether?  I wonder if it could be that the lowering voltage is the discharge of that energy through the LED.  Just a thought.  But I know nothing of the subtleties of the Joule Thief builds.  I'd like to give this more thought.

Quote from: Magneticitist on September 13, 2010, 06:58:00 AMlets say i have a capacitor that sits on a table, and every 5 or ten minutes it has built up enough charge to turn a small DC motor for about one second. lets say i put 50 of these capacitors in a bank and had them running and idling all at different times. it could be possible for me to time their discharges just right, so the small DC motor turns almost consistently, just from the electrolyte within them atmospherically charging.
I get it.  Very interesting M'itist.

Quote from: Magneticitist on September 13, 2010, 06:58:00 AMi believe the stubblefield is similar, but i do not know if i were to create a super large electrolytic cap, would it gather the same type of charge but proportionally larger? or would it still receive the same amount of charge as the smaller one. likewise with the stubblefield. however i believe since the Earth itself is so large an increase in the mass of our coil would also increase its reception.
If the cap has a meaurable potential difference - then I'm inclined to agree.

Very nice Magneticitist.  It'll certainly be an interesting variation if you're planning to do these tests.  But I do think it needs to be tested against a moving rotor - or we'll be back to the interminable requirements for measurable proof.  Where this combination of evidence is so valuable to the cause, so to speak - is precisely because the rotor is coaxed to turn without the input of any 'evident' extraneous energy source.  I know my own tests were snarled by this debate.  And here's an elegant rig that goes to the heart of the matter with a simplicity that entirely captivates me.

Regards,
Rosemary

Rosemary Ainslie

Quote from: Pirate88179 on September 13, 2010, 08:36:29 AM
Stubblefield...

We also know that when he submitted his patent application, it was not called a battery at all.  In order to get his patent granted, he had to add the word Battery to get this approved by the examiners who did not understand how this could work if it was not a battery.  Stubblefield was not happy with this but he did it to get it approved.

Bill
Golly Pirate.  How interesting is that?  I wonder if he had called it a 'generator' if it wouldn't perhaps have 'generated'  ;D more interest.  It's not suprising that I've never heard of Nathan Subblefield - as my schooling in science is rather skimpy.  But his name seems to be entirely omitted from standard curriculae and some of the experts I've spoken to are entirely unaware of this patent of his or this technology drive.  It seems he's like Tesla - and Leedskalnin.  They're the true geniuses that just operated below the radar.  Delighted to see this being revitalised and back in focus - and this is precisely the value of these forums and this seemingly endless talent on these forums.  So nice.

Kindest as ever,
Rosie

Rosemary Ainslie

Quote from: slapper on September 13, 2010, 11:27:03 AM
If you have disks on each end of your core see if by applying pressure at each end inward
will change your voltage readings. Stubblefield had the advantage of using a bolt for the core
with a nut on the end. He could compress the iron/copper coil assembly by tightening his
bolt.

We know this should have an effect on the capacitance of the assembly. I'm looking into
these effects and how magneto restriction plays a role during polarity reversals.

A little over 2 minutes into lasersaber's '48 days' video he explains how polarity reversals
seem to help with effects: http://www.youtube.com/user/lasersaber#p/a/u/2/kbaub2kkkpA
Take a look at Lidmotor's 'scope shot' video he did for MK1.
http://www.youtube.com/user/Lidmotor#p/u/21/MGwylnFvfZo
We see that by adding charge to the coil a magnetic bias is set up to take advantage of
the polarity flipping characteristics.

Please take a look at a Wiegand wire and compare it to the Stubblefield assembly. When
the soft core polarity flips and causes the iron wire polarity flips an effect occurs that
can be picked up. http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3500.msg255762#msg255762

Although adding galvanic approaches adds to more interesting effects using insulated wire
isolates the galvanic effects and we can study and test other effects more clearly.

For example: During polarity flipping of both core and the helically wrapped iron wire magneto
restriction events occur applying a sharp change in mechanical pressure on the copper wire
sandwiched between the iron wraps. These are some of the effects I'm looking into.

Take care.

nap

Thanks very much for this post Slapper.  Very astute observations.  I'll try that rig with stripped wire - if I can find the patience to strip all that copper.  At least we'll have one build where the metals actually touch.  If it doesn't work I'll rewind.  I'm anxious to see what happens when there's absolute proximity between the wires. 

And DonL - many thanks INDEED for all your careful reporting.  I get it that the magnetic effect seems to be independent of the measured potential difference.  This is precisely what Laser's been pointing to.  Seems that empirical values is all we'll be able to look at - at this early stage.

Regards
Rosemary

Pirate88179

Quote from: shylo on September 13, 2010, 06:37:28 PM
Hi Bill thanx for the reply..........my mistake I just assumed that until the connections were made ...they were just two parallel wires.......will multiple strand copper wire work in place of single strand unenameled..........as long as its' close to the same guage as the steal wire..........shylo

I have only used solid copper wire as per the patent but, this is what experiments are for, right?  Who knows, the same diameter stranded wire MAY actually be better...or not as good.  Only one way to find out.

If stranded does work, it will be another step closer to easier/cheaper replications.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

Rosemary Ainslie

Loner, Guys, I wonder if I may just point to something that sort of goes to my interests in this rig.  I'm sure you all know about the Casimir effect.  It's the proven evidence that when you put two metals together - then they 'stick' - with a force that indicates a complete material bonding.  It's only been shown on a very small scale.  I've long proposed that this is due to magnetic fields inside the material of conductive/inductive material that are able to re-arrange their spins.  Something outside the atom - but that holds the atoms bound - inside all three dimensional structures.  In paramagnetic and diamagnetic material  - the proposal is that these can alter their 'justification'.  This would give them the same properties as a magnetic field - so, by deduction, they may then be magnetic fields. 

In as much as these juxtaposed materials seem to be invariably responding with a magnetic moment - I wonder if this may be the 'root cause'.  The thing is this.  It would then still be very much a property of the aether - provided only that these fields are everywhere.  This because it's proposed that the aether is everywhere.  The only difference being that the aether itself may simply be the global - universal - distribution of magnetic fields.  Just a thought.  That way - when we find potential difference it may be the result of some 'imbalanced' condition of those binding fields inside that material.  At least, this way - there may be some material explanation for the continued interaction of the wires with a compas - as Don is showing us - regardless of the wet/dry state of the coil. 

By the way.  The proposal is that these fields hold atoms bound inside crystalline or three dimensional structures.  In other words if it's got a three dimensional shape then it's got these active little energy fields inside that structure holding it in shape.  That, in any event, is my take.  And it does seem to be consistent with the evidence. 

Regards,
Rosemary