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Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!

Started by lasersaber, September 01, 2010, 09:59:28 PM

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IotaYodi

QuoteWater is ABSOLUTELY NOT REQUIRED.  Here's the proof.
Lasers magnesium cell is basically a dry cell. Still a galvanic action from humidty and temperature with the magnesium. The magnesium will still be used up at some point. The Ns coil is a different animal.

QuoteIF a galvanic reaction DOES NOT REQUIRE AN ELECTROLYTE WHY THEN CAN IT NOT BE CONSIDERED TO BE OU 
Over unity is a large word. Pirate and I have had conversations on this. If the aether is what produces current in any conductor as some researchers think,then there can be no Ou. The aether is a never ending sea. The device or materiel's itself would just be the conduit. Standard electric reference points for the aether dont really exist yet.
Standard reference points in electricity mainly deal with the problem of heat or watts. Too much current on a given size wire can only take so much heat. Conversely if it was possible, cold can stop the flow of electricity.
This forum is Called Overunity. Not everyone here is trying to prove over unity. In fact most arent. Its a place to find a cheaper and more economical way to produce power. I dont care if Over unity is real or not.
I have been on the Internet since 1988. Opinions on forums can turn quickly into a boxing match. If someone is adamant about their views then leave it alone. Peace and harmony is a better way to research.
Ok whos got the device to power my whole home so I can get off the grid?  :)   
What I know I know!
Its what I don't know that's a problem!

gauschor

Regarding the devices which work without any water:

The request to put these into a faraday cage has absolutely nothing to do with "trash". Instead it is necessary, because it can prevent miscalculations in further prototypes of the device. You need to know or at least estimate what power source you are dealing with. Only then you can progress and advance successfully in experiments. I myself experienced in prior experiments many faulty measurements due to external EMF interferences, unto an extend that it can't be omitted anymore. Therefore these problematic disturbing "3rd party power sources" must be eliminated as well as in any way possible.
To achieve that, I suggest the experimenter performs at least a test with an "amateur faraday cage": Take a cardboard box, cover all sides with cheap aluminium foil from the grocery, earth it, put the device into it. Then lead 2 short wires from the device to the outside of the box and measure again. I'm interested in the results.

nievesoliveras

This is not my thread but there is a difference betwen a person that writes:

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To achieve that, I suggest the experimenter performs at least a test with an "amateur faraday cage": Take a cardboard box, cover all sides with cheap aluminium foil from the grocery, earth it, put the device into it. Then lead 2 short wires from the device to the outside of the box and measure again. I'm interested in the results.

And the person that writes:

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I took a cardboard box, covered all sides with cheap aluminium foil from the grocery, earth it, put the device into it. Then lead 2 short wires from the device to the outside of the box and measured again. If you are interested in the results I can post them here for everybody's benefit.

Remember this is just an example of what we need to achieve our goal.


Omnibus

Quote from: Rosemary Ainslie on September 12, 2010, 11:55:56 AM
Omnibus - you have accused lasersaber of a neurotic reach at self glorification in posting his rig - in the first instance.  Then you charged through each page loudly proclaiming to all and sundry that he's not only NOT got OU but he has no right to even post on this thread and possibly not even on this forum.  You have challenged my own competence on just about each page of this thread and certainly all over my own thread.  And you have even now taken the attack to Wilby and to other forum members.  You've demanded that Bill take over the subject here and loudly and rather rudely required that our interest in Lasersaber's device be DROPPED.

You based your complaints on the fact that the Nathan Stubblefield battery is simply a child's example of a battery doing what a battery does best - which is to lose its energy.  But careful analysis of the evidence shows that this assumption is INCORRECT.  Not only do you not reference that analysis but you continue with your demands that my own contributions be ignored and then state that anyone who supports this device is DELUDED into thinking that there are any advantages. 

We know your opinion.  But it seems that your desire to be heard is such that you are deliberately 'killing' this thread - in the interests of putting this subject to a close. If you stated your opinion once then that would be understandable - and no-one could reasonably object.  But you state it repeatedly - on every page and after every post.  And there is no well considered argument put forward to support your opinion.  There is no reach at an explanation.  And when your opinions are proven to be fallacious - you continue with them anyway.  On every page - as mentioned.  That's a well known troll technique.  The intention is to reach a level of confrontation that the subject is then developed on a 'personal level' and the thread is then locked.  I put it to you that this is your motive.  I get it that you think we're all rather intellectually limited.  But we all only need to know of your attitude JUST ONCE.  It's enough for even such as I to learn what is your opinion.  But then go away.  That would be appropriate.  But it seems that there is an overriding need to kill this subject entirely.  For some reason we may not research it.  Why is that?  What is your actual motive?  Have you invested in Steorne's licensing that you need to keep his and only his technology alive?  And if your general concerns are for the purity of research then why are you not anxious to clean up those more obviously absurd topics on this forum?  Why don't you charge through all the threads with this copious evidence of your general intolerance that your concerns here can be considered valid?  Again.  Why? Why do you tolerate all and sundry but are entirely unable to tolerate this thread topic?  I put it to you again - that you have a vested interest in killing off this technology.  And I suspect that it is self serving and I suspect that it's being done under the PRETENSE of protecting all and sundry against my own input or that input from any like minded amongst our members.  That's highly suspicious.  Indeed.  Your motives here are highly suspicious.

If this topic had been left in your capable hands you would have assured us all that there is nothing in the galvanic effect and that there is no value in lasersaber's device.  The interest would have died.  And then you would have been happy.  Unfortunately you DID NOT succeed.  Clearly lasersaber's device is NOT a typical battery.  And the effects are clearly OU.  If you disagree then that is your right.  It is NOT your right to dominate the discussion on this your opinion or - indeed - these your opinions.  We know them now.  We do NOT need to be reminded on each and every post made here.  Frankly it is my opinion that you are in gross breach of forum etiquette and good manners and I would strongly recommend that - if you wish to remain plausible - that you, at its least, learn to be courteous - and respect a member's requirement to post their technologies as they - and NOT as YOU - require.

Rosemary

One can only wonder how much longer will so much crap be tolerated to clog the important discussions in this forum.

truthbeknown

Quote from: gauschor on September 12, 2010, 03:33:15 PM
Regarding the devices which work without any water:

The request to put these into a faraday cage has absolutely nothing to do with "trash". Instead it is necessary, because it can prevent miscalculations in further prototypes of the device. You need to know or at least estimate what power source you are dealing with. Only then you can progress and advance successfully in experiments. I myself experienced in prior experiments many faulty measurements due to external EMF interferences, unto an extend that it can't be omitted anymore. Therefore these problematic disturbing "3rd party power sources" must be eliminated as well as in any way possible.
To achieve that, I suggest the experimenter performs at least a test with an "amateur faraday cage": Take a cardboard box, cover all sides with cheap aluminium foil from the grocery, earth it, put the device into it. Then lead 2 short wires from the device to the outside of the box and measure again. I'm interested in the results.


How much should we bet that none of the experimenters here will do that and film it and post it? Thats been a common problem on the forums that people DO NOT want to show their FAILED experiments. And really, there is nothing wrong with showing the good and the bad results. Its human nature I think to not want to show our failed attempts at anything.

:-X
J.