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Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!

Started by lasersaber, September 01, 2010, 09:59:28 PM

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Magneticitist

@rosemary, i agree about testing that idea on a rotor. i actually got the idea from coming home each day from work and noticing the voltage in some of my electrolytic caps above a few volts.. the day i made the other post i had discharged one into a small dc motor and it turned the rotor. nothing remarkable but it did physically move the rotor. there was a small current there. so i went about my business and came back some time after and tried it again. rotor noticeably turned again. likewise i can do this to run sensitive joule thiefs for a second at a time. i feel like i might be written off if i start to talk too much about some of my theories regarding voltage and current, but i guess i can say i feel a current is always in a capacitance to come degree, it just needs a certain voltage potential to free it.

i cant help but wonder how much energy can be cascaded and discharged from a hypothetical 500+ capacitors that have charged a very small amount each all on their own.

at the same time i believe these caps will not have the same effect if i were to move them away from such a populated area. it is true about the amount of static charge that floats around everywhere. its gathering in all the plastic, paper, wood, rubber... all of that. and coming from everywhere.

u can build a darlington setup with small transistors using 3 or more, and it will oscillate on its own from the static charge that its getting from the room.
mine likes to oscillate always unless totally isolated statically, or has its potential interrupted temporarily by me moving around or something.

all of this static potential that would switch this darlington arrangement is the same energy that is charging the caps i believe, and may be running the stubblefield as well.

cosmicgnarler has a vid showing him on a bike trail underneath power lines holding an led avramenko plug, and the led is lit from the line potential.

but even in the absence of such a potential its safe to say theres a fair amount of waves travelling all across the world.

IotaYodi

@dllabarre

Interesting stuff with the Faraday.

QuoteI don't think I've mentioned before, the magnetic attraction is only at the 2 ends of the coil and not on the sides.

That would be normal. Strongest fields are at the poles.

QuoteBut if I touch the core on the end where I ended the windings with my finger the volts go up an additional .45-.50V

The end you touched was the south pole. When conventional current exits a wire or body its the north pole.

QuoteIf I touch a wire or the core on the end where my windings began nothing happens.
Like poles repel.

Check out the Bar magnet and solenoid.
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/magnetic/elemag.html

Thanks for the info dllabarre!
What I know I know!
Its what I don't know that's a problem!

Rosemary Ainslie

Hi again Magneticitist

Convention has it that 'static charge' is from 'electrons' - and while electrons are the physical proof of this charge - I'm actually proposing that the movement of the electrons is actually caused by 'fields' or magnetic fields - that are proposed to underlie all matter.  In effect the energy that we extract from any interaction is the result of these hidden forces.  Therefore - in terms of what you're seeing in the 'recharge' of those caps - may be the result of these binding fields re-organishing their potential difference - and by discharging that energy into the rotor or the LED's they establish the preferred balance - and then lose it again once they've discharged through the wire.  The principle being that maybe, like all magnetic fields - they move to a condition of 'best balance'.   But I'm not proposing that anyone 'buy in' to these suggestions.  It's just a thought.

Kindest regards,
Rosemary

nul-points

hi all

intriguing thread! ...regardless of what OnthebUs says!  ;)

(and i agree with the earlier post BTW - ignore him until his manners improve & he parks his ego)

here's a few more possibly-related backgrounds, from my own observations and readings:-

- electron tunneling
  i've read about the generation of charge separation due to to surface electrons 'tunneling' through a thin layer of insulator/dielectric to escape from a metallic surface, and then being unable to return because they were removed or captured either by air molecules or to another metal beyond the air-gap,

effect increases with heat, plates/sheets of dissimilar metals (few cm^2 area); the test results i read were for aluminium/ copper; effect can still occur with like metals, but reduced intensity; pressure was applied to get an optimum spacing between the metals - effect peaked at some pressure; some effort was made to 'dry-out' the test

sounds familiar? - would be interesting to see if the rigs here can sustain an increased voltage at an elevated temperature for some period - preferably shielded - eg, old electric oven on lowish temp (40-50*C?)


- connection/disconnection of metals
  i've noticed that just making or breaking a metallic connection can sometimes cause a measurable voltage spike - could this be happening at the reed relay make/break junction?


- some crystals (eg. Rochelle salt) can be used as a dielectric for increased capacitance
  i've read that this material quite strongly exhibits the 'dielectric adsorption' effect - anomalous self-increase of voltage in a capacitor arrangement - thought to be related to previous charge on the cap, but my results show otherwise!  could the common salt be adding a slight amount of this effect to whatever else is happening here?


Magneticist (& others?) - you might be interested to read about some of the anomalous capacitor effects which i've recorded in a PDF - see the 'Secret Life of Capacitors' thread:
     http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=9393.msg247816#msg247816


all the best with these experiments - good stuff!
sandy

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dllabarre

Quote from: nievesoliveras on September 13, 2010, 04:19:06 PM
@lasersaber

Dont feel bad because it seems that nobody saw what you wrote here
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=9687.msg256892#msg256892

People are just eager to replicate.

Jesus

Don't say "nobody".  ;)

I saw it just after he posted it.
I make it a point to start reading the posts where I left off the day before.
I search by time of posts until I find the last one I read the day before and start there.  Sometimes I have to go back 3-5 pages to get to where I left off.  ;D

DonL