Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!

[IotaYodi]

My statement of "I assume this was purely galvanic v/a" was assuming the coil was out of the ground with no other external voltage source or input and using the coils galvanic current. If in the ground I would think you would have more v/a. Just speculating but the galvanic e-field previously mentioned would no doubt extend out into the earth and possibly connect to the earths e-fields or telluric currents making it part of the loop and bypassing the iron wire as its conductor. If thats the case then its a closed loop between the earth and coil and sounds like a charging mode on the coil itself. Interesting question.
Though still speculation on my part, I still think the damp cotton is holding the charge. With a dielectric of nine for water it would slow charge down. But once the water drys out its dielectric would change to a lower number building up a quicker charge with an easier flow. The Earth is apparently doing the same according to experiments so far. A specific water content in a given materiel and volume may be needed for good charge flow. Seems it cant be too wet or too dry. If Stubblefield had a mica insulator around the coil to add the secondary that would keep the coil dryer but still retain moisture.   
You may want to try leaving the wire on the core to see if it charges up some overnight.

[Rosemary Ainslie]

Iota.  Here's the thing.  Buried - the coil works better dry.  Above ground the coil works better wet.  Rusted and it appears to work - forever?  We're yet to find out.  Basically because we can't yet argue whether it's entirely dry. 

But wet or dry - a 'battery' would require an electrolytic interaction that varies the molecular state of atoms in that cell.  Traditionally this is seen to degrade the continued efficiency of the cell - as it occurs at a quantifiable value - relates to the mass of the elements in that battery - and that 'uses up' or changes that atomic/molecular material of the battery itself.  If the cotton somehow enables the transfer of charge without actually disintergrating then it's simply another 'element' in that cell.  It is not interacting as one understands a typical electrolyte would interact.  And the same with water. 

To argue a battery you would require the disintegration of that battery to account for all the energy delivered by that battery.  Bob has already advised us that there is NO material degradation or alteration of these Earth Batteries - even after two years.  In my humble opinion - it is more of a conduit for electromagnetic forces that are inducing current flow.  And whether this is argued as telleric currents or to an overriding interaction of the coil with our earth's magnetic fields - or wether it is simply interacting with the metals in the coil itself - the fact is that it is NOT degrading.  Any more than any coil degrades.  I cannot - for the life of me - therefore see this as a battery. 

Regards,
Rosemary

[Rosemary Ainslie]

Guys - I've now spoken to a chemist who has stated that the the salts in the earth act as the bridge for the conduction of electrons.  I then explained about Laser's rig and he correctly asked 'how do we know if there is no water in remaining in that coil?'.  Fair comment.  He then stated - 'this is just a waste of my good time.  Goodbye.' ... and put the phone down.  A familiar reaction.  But I'm now wondering if - just perhaps - it's appropriate?  Maybe, indeed, the 'salt bridge' required for a galvanic interaction - does not also have the required result of degrading of the material?

The fact is that I can't argue the absence of 'salts' in either laser's rig nor in the your buried numbers - Bill.  Nor for that matter in any experiment unless it's using distilled water.  I actually think that the only way to actually prove this is to encase the coil in some sort of air tight container that can hold a given amount of moisture and that moisture - the wetting - will need to be done with distilled water.  Has anyone done this?  Even used just distilled water on a Laser's rig type replication?

In any event.  I'm feeling a bit disheartened about this.  I need to give it some more thought.  It's the argument related to 'electron' flow required for 'current flow' that gets me.  It's self-evidently nonsense but have never found a chemist who cares to argue the fact.  I have endless objections to this starting with the thought that electrons could even share a path.  But I'm digressing - way off topic - and right now am not up to it in any event.

Regards,
Rosemary

[Pirate88179]

Rose:

I am familiar with that response from "the learned".

Look at it this way, I have delt with more than a few hecklers on my youtube videos, and I tell them all the same thing.  If I can light 400 leds for free, or do any of the other things I have been able to do, if the NS coil ONLY lasts 20 years in the ground...who cares?

I mean, look at Laser's topic here....3 months and counting right?  "Oh that is just a galvanic reaction and it will eat up the materials in a few days."  Well, we now know that is not correct.  What if his device runs a year?  2 years?  At what point will folks say....wow, I guess that really is something?

With my engineering background I am a results oriented kind of guy.  I don't care much what something was designed to do, or it is supposed to do, I want to know what it can do.

I like how these "smart" academics always come up with something like...."Well there is salt in the earth and that explains it."  Really?  Not to me is doesn't.   Does he have a power system that will do this for this long?  If not, why not?

Anyway, thanks for trying Rose.  Just remember, we can enjoy what these devices can do and we can most likely improve upon that with some experimentation and research.  That is more than enough for me.

Bill

[dllabarre]

I haven't posted much lately because I didn't have anything new and exciting to show.

But because everyone is talking about the water and salt I decided to post this.

My 2nd one layer coil: a layer of cotton on core, one layer gal. steel wire, a layer of cotton, one layer bare copper wire, a layer of cotton, a layer of plastic wrap on the outside. NO SALT.  Just Tap Water.


reading:
Volts   Time    Day  Amps
.927V  7:05PM D1
.775V 10:15PM D1  9mA
.658V  6:44AM D2  6mA
.586V  7:23PM D2  3mA
.505V  7:51AM D3  1mA
.501V  6:26PM D3  1mA
.512V 11:20PM D3  1mA
.350V  7:40AM D4  .5mA
skipped Day 5
.300V  6:52PM D6  .2mA
After taking the plastic off of my coil and letting it dry for one day
.0V    7:30AM D8  0mA

Next time I will use distilled water.

DonL