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Overunity Machines Forum



Parallel Path Magnet Motor

Started by scianto, September 08, 2010, 02:50:32 AM

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lancaIV

"We should be seeing 200 to 400%."
            Nice wish !
Flynnresearch is today www.qmpower.com
            Please accept their own work,with efficiencies under 100% !

Sincerely
               CdL

Ted Ewert

Quote from: lancaIV on September 14, 2010, 05:43:17 PM
"We should be seeing 200 to 400%."
            Nice wish !
Flynnresearch is today www.qmpower.com
            Please accept their own work,with efficiencies under 100% !

Sincerely
               CdL
Why bother with any motor unless it has the potential for over unity?? I can go buy a motor off the shelf with 90% plus efficiency, so what's the attraction?
If they're used in a motor properly, magnets can provide enormous amounts of extra power. This is no idle wish either. Switched flux works slowly, and has to be used that way. It's just going to take a little more research to figure out an efficient drive configuration.


Ted

Airstriker

Quote from: Ted Ewert on September 14, 2010, 07:54:05 PM
Why bother with any motor unless it has the potential for over unity?? I can go buy a motor off the shelf with 90% plus efficiency, so what's the attraction?
If they're used in a motor properly, magnets can provide enormous amounts of extra power. This is no idle wish either. Switched flux works slowly, and has to be used that way. It's just going to take a little more research to figure out an efficient drive configuration.

Ted

Here is why you want to use Flynn's motors:

"QM Power motors, generators and actuators offer the highest commercially available peak and average efficiencies of any electromechanical device.
A common misperception is that motors "are already 80-90% efficient so there might not be that much technological improvement needed".  However, as shown below, this marketed “peak” efficiency is only achieved at speeds where most motors are seldom actually operated   In fact, for most “variable” speed applications (electric vehicles, power tools etc), the highest “peak” efficiency is actually below 60%.  Since these applications are also variable, the actual “average” efficiency is often less than 30%.
Most PPMT motors have peak efficiencies in excess of 90%. In addition, even if normalized down to the same peak efficiency as an existing/conventional system, the average efficiency of a PPMT variable speed and/or load application is still often 1.75 or times or more as efficient as conventional alternatives.  Average efficiency is directly proportional to battery life.
Since PPMT's peak efficiency is available near its peak power, it also eliminates the requirement for motors to be oversized to achieve high efficiencies in fixed speed applications substantially reducing cost ."

scianto

Furthermore there are things which are not said by the experimentators. For example, my previous model (photos and films here, not yet in youtube: http://servilo.website.pl/laboratorio/esploroj/rownolegle_strumienie/SRSM1/) was really strong. With 10V 0.1A input (=1W) running without any load, I was not able to stop it by holding the shaft with leather gloves. The input current went to max 2.5A (=25W) and the motor slowed down a lot, but no way I couldn't stop it. To compare it with other motors, I could easily stop a 75 W 3 phase motor when holding the shaft with the same hand.

scianto

I did a dozen of tests with motor-alternator windings connection of SRSM3.

Winding 1-3-5 were powering the motor and winding 2-4-6 (the same motor, the same stator) were working as an alternator. The film below shows another setup, windings 1,4 are powering the motor and windings 2,4,5,6 are used as an alternator so that power is drawn out of them.

Maximum efficiency I could attain was 64% so quite law. But it's
just a beginning of this tests and I believe more will be seen.
Still the question is, how much power is now on the shaft?

I just uploaded a short film from these tests, here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ8TrIrVJ1Q