Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison

[NickZ]

  Sorry for the error, it is Marcus Reid, not Walter Reid.  Didn't mean to confuse.

[jbignes5]

 I totally agree with you here nick. The water is kinda the first step. It allows a structure to be made with what resides in the water while the crystall is is that aligned water. But after that structure is made there is little use for the water. That is why we use salts because they desiccate after a period of time. After a certain growing time of the crystal structure the environment should be controlled. Meaning we need to evacuate it from the process. In some of the experiments this was used but I think it needs to be more controlled. Once the structure is formed I doubt water helps one bit in the process. It might raise the conduction path slightly but I think it is only tearing down some structure and rebuilding it with a higher potential of the cell. You will always need some water in this system. I think it is only how well the water is contained in the structure.

[NickZ]

 BTW:  Ibpointless just has shown a video of his new crystal cell with a starting current reading higher than anyone has gotten yet. It does drop under load, but still an amazing output from just using a 3 inch long piece of thin copper pipe, some mg ribbon, and his crystal mix.

[jbignes5]

 where is the link?

Ok I found it.

Nice current. But something is really not right with the battery. Did you see how the amperage fell on that. Wow I just said amperage and Not micro amps. Heh, I wonder how many of them he can stack in parallel and see what that thing can do? One possible problem in the current not being so stable could be that the crystal structure is too weak to handle a direct short. The structure will melt back into a slurry and destroy it's internal structure. We might need to look for another crystal to form the bulk or increase the size of the unit to allow more current with less self destruction. Is this the same mixture? Or possible we can parallel enough of them to handle a direct short type of load without much self destruction. Then we only need to have a Battery management system much like the lifepo batteries. This would help to maintain the structure of the cells on an individual basis. Maybe even build in a self heal function that brings back a damaged cell. We can work with the limitations by inserting some logic circuits to help keep the cells healthy.

One thing that I have been seeing is that there is a certain geometry that works. It has to be round. This is because the energy from the surrounding environment will leak into the battery from all around it. With the crystal matrix that is forming it fits pretty well. It seems to be compressing twords the inner conductor and the different metals keep a slight pressure or constant flow by virtue of the potential differences of the metals.

One other thought I had about the lowering of the current is that it could be like when we break our bones or tear a muscle. The healing process creates a stronger connection while it is healing that break. This process might work to strengthen the cell as it ages, much like our muscles show so eloquently. But there are limits to the structure we are using and that is closely tied to the melting point of the crystalline structure. reach that point and it will degrade, let it rest(short it) and it heals by virtue of the natural flow we have setup here.

Back to the BMS idea. This system will have to be provided to help manage the structure of these batteries. There will have to be done some tests to figure that point out. Like regular batteries they have a range that will maintain the battery for a useful life. They usually call this the c20 value. With these new batteries I suggest we monitor the current and batteries and figure where that c20 value is and use that in the bms to provide a healthy battery for longer times with a more useful lifespan.

[NickZ]

  The main problem with all these cells is the internal impedance factor. The resistance and impedance are the cause of the detriment in output.
And according to JB this can be helped by placing the cells in parallel instead of series, and using an efficient oscillator like the Hartley oscillator on the parallel connected array of cells.  This is because the impedance of each cell when in series will add up along with the others cells and increase with each added cell. Not so when in parallel.
  I'll have to try this myself today to see it it really works, but somehow I rather doubt it.  I will try it today on my cement cell bank, first.  Although I know what he is saying, I have already tried it before, but I'll give it another go at it. This time with the above point of view in mind.

  In any case Ib2 has just blown us away with his little cell, even if the output drops under load, he needs to connect it to an ocsillator instead of the meter to see what it will do.