Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison

[mdmiller]

opps, guess there's a 50KB limit, I'll attach again.  for scale, this is sitting on a coffee cup. - duane

[Koen1]

An old time product and commonly called waterglass, it is readily available and cheap (in keeping with the dirt-cheap aspect).  I get it at the local ceramics shop, they have a drum of it and refill my container.  Artists use it in clay instead of water, so that in firing the clay doesn't shrink.  I think I paid about $3 for a quart and have used it in some other experiments for waterproofing some building materials.

Yes, we have mentioned waterglass before. In my experience, waterglass dries neatly if the surface area is large enough, or if you heat it hot enough,
about 200 degrees celcius should suffice to make it solidify nicely. But below that temperature and if the surface area is small in relation to the volume,
it takes forever to dry out and solidify completely. This is due to its water-proofing qualities. The stuff was used some decades ago to waterproof cellar
walls etc, and if applied to such a cellar wall it tends to form a nice dry and hard layer that is porous to water vapour but not to liquid water. In my experience,
when you use waterglass in cell mixtures, the mixture takes very long to dry properly. This appears to be due to the fact that the top layer of waterglass
evaporates its water quite quickly, then thickens and forms a sort of rubbery film on top of the cell contents, and that layer only allows very little water
to evaporate. I still have a cell here that I made over 3 months ago, and the waterglass "crystal" in it is still not entirely hardened and it is still a little "sticky"
when I touch it. Adding a very little bit of it to a mix instead of water does seem to work, although I am not sure if that really has much of an effect.
I guess it depends on what other materials you use in your cells, and since I tend to make most of my cells with a bit of silver sand or quartz in there,
the resultant "soup" when I boil it already contains quite a bit of silicate, so it may just be that the waterglass binds nicely with that.
By the way, although waterglass is a sodium silicate solution, sodium silicate does come in many forms beside waterglass. In fact, metal and silicate
compounds are many, and many are also quite easy to make. Boiling a mix of water and fine quartz sand and then adding NaOH in the right amounts
will produce a sodium silicate for example. (Watch out when you do it though, boiling mud contains silicic acid which is not something you want to get
on your skin at high temps, and obviously NaOH is also nasty stuff, so use caution.)

I did not know that it was used in clay... even though I know a few ceramic artists...
Does it not mess up the nice internal structure of the clay, thereby making the clay product more fragile?
I do know potters sometimes use it to waterproof their pottery...

Mixing waterglass with lime and portland you can achieve some funky products.

does it? Like what?
I know portland cement and gopolymers are interesting but I have not tried any in my cells yet,
although some cells do contain a mix that seems to be very similar to geopolymer binder, chemically speaking.

And that brings up another thought, the Lambertson E-dam WIN cell is based on cermet and sound similar to these Reid-Hutchinson devices.

In what way do you think it is similar? As far as I recall, the "E-dam" thing had to be pulsed with input current for it to operate? How is that similar
to a cell that needs no input and gives output?

[mdmiller]

I ran onto this at JH's blog and thought it would be good to preserve it, in case it disappeared from the blog.  Being new and not familiar with protocol, if this is wrong would the moderator please delete.

From: Dr Thorsten Ludwig
To: 'johnhutchison'
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 1:40 PM
Subject: AW: fantastic

....I have reached home fine with the samples you made for us and am now experimenting with them.

The big one in a platic container about the size of an old film can is the best performer. Around .55 Volt and up to .15 mA. Another big one in a small silver plated pipe with a brass rod in the middle is having .15 Volt and give .01 mA. With a load of 50 kOhm the power slowly drops. The ones in the gun shells and in the cigarette filter I have not tested to much, but I have now set up nice measuring units that take long and accurate readings. I am now getting ready to activate the ones that give now volt at the moment (about half of the samples)

How do I do the activation on the ones with nearly no volt. In case of the cigarette filters there is no second wire so I have to contact them as well. Should I press a wisker or probe pin onto the cristlin substance.


Saturday, March 8, 2008      Posted by John Hutchison at 4:46 PM
....now to the POWER CELLS PLEASE TRY PURE DIRECT CURRENT ONTO WHISKERS.. YOU WANT TO PUT INSIDE TRY FIRST 12 VOLTS for i minute THEN FOR ONE SECOND TRY 10 000 VOLTS D.C NO HEAVY CURRENTS !!!! THESE CELLS SCAVENGE ENERGY FROM ALL THINGS EVEN THOUGHT FORMS AS IAM TOLD FROM ROLAND IN MUNCHEN PLUS OTHERS;;;

[Koen1]

I have been thinking about this for a while now,
decided to put the question to you guys here:

Since this thread is increasingly about our own experiments with crystal cells,
and no new or really usefull input has been provided by Hutchison,
perhaps we should start a new thread titled "Crystal cell experiments"
instead of constantly bumping the Hutchison thread up...?
After all, JH has never posted anything here, and all the info from him
is vague or second/third hand info...
And there's a lot more info gathered here by us, the forum members, than
JH has ever given.

About the JH blog: I am very sceptical about anything coming from JH on
the subject of his cells, especially if he claims to be in contact with people
in Germany. After all, mr. Reid lives in Germany, and has been researching
crystal cell tech for more than a decade now, during which he has sought
contact with JH several times to discuss their seperate crystal cell experiments
and research approaches. Hutchison has apparently not been willing to
exchange info with Reid. Reid himself has been actively gathering proper
research data, incl. measurements by several different physicists (doctors &
professors), and including a recent time-wave influence test.
I have not seen any such data from Hutchison ever.
And since Hutchison also gives me complete radio silence as soon as I ask him
questions about his cells or tell him about mine, while Reid untill now has been
quite forthcoming with information (towards me at least), I am seriously inclined
to value Reids work a lot more than Hutchisons. So far Hutchison has not really
shown anything, he has just made a lot of noise.
If the info on his blog is correct, the cells he's making don't put out anywhere near
the 3V 3amps he bragged about before...  So even his own blog turns his
previous statements questionable now...

[mdmiller]

to @Koen1   (if this double-posts I'm sorry the website or my internet is acting wierd)

in reply to your question on sodium silicate, one interesting simple mix is wollastonite (calcium silicate) and sodium silicate (liquid form).  mix a tablespoon of wollastonite into a thick paste, pop in the microwave for a minute - forms a very nice lightweight insulative material, it has expanded quite a bit, not sure if it qualifies as a geopolymer, but it would make a good hot pad

one thing I noticed on Reid's cell in the pictures he shows (the 'D' sized cell) it looks like it is poured, dried (or cooked) then during this process expands.  note how the bottom of the cell has "puffed out" from the tube form, like making blueberry muffins.  Then the cell has been flipped over with the top of the muffin on the bottom of the cell.  This tells me that some component in the electrolyte has expanded - my rough estimates from measuring/estimating the volume in photoshop is about 12% expansion.  I'm guessing that is causing an air entrainment.  Now, are these little bubbles important ?