Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison

[Koen1]

It's not fair to use the MP i have sent to you, it was to not butter you anymore here, there is another MP that you have not use yet !

It was not fair of you to accuse me of being dishonest and unsincere either. Yet you did it.
And you did it in PM so nobody else could see your completely unfounded accusations.
I do not like to be called a liar and dishonest, and especially not when the entire stroy on the basis of which you accuse me
has transpired in the public forum. I thought at least we could let the others see how you accuse me of dishonesty,
while for some reason you do not want others to know about your accusations... Who's being dishonest now?
Seems to me the guy who first asks for my view in public and then chooses to call me a liar in private is the one
trying to keep things secret... Funny notion of sincerety and honesty you have there... Must be French...

Don't ask why i don't trust you ! you have just use my PM against me !

Yes, I have made public the accusation you made of me being dishonest in my answer to you.
Because for some strange reason you seemed to think being very secretive about it
would give you the moral high ground or something? But unfortunately that doesn't work.
You can't accuse people of dishonesty while you are yourself being very sneaky about it.
Well, you can, but you'll lose credibility of course.
First of all I did not use you PM against you, I simply repled in public to an accusation
you made in private which I resent and deny and which was based on test I posted in
full public view so I see no reason to suddenly keep your reply to that secret. plus I don't
see why I should have to keep your false accusation secret either.
You should have thought about this before falsely accusing me of dishonest answers to
your questions.
You may disagree with me and I am fully willing to discuss that, but do not accuse me
of such things as being insincere in my answers to you. I may see things differently and
answer your questions in a way that you are not used to, but that does not make my
reply insincere nor dishonest.
While your reaction was anything but civil.

i am not an ass hole, and you can not handle a private MP converstion

In the situation where you secretly try to accuse me unjustly while the entire argumentation
of which you accuse me to be dishonest has been held in public forum, I chose
not to comply with your dubious secrecy and show your injust accusation in reply to
my argumentation to the rest of the forum members as well. And I did so because I find
such an action to be that of an asshole. So in that situation and according to my personal
view after just having been insulted by you, you were indeed an asshole.

and what about military diodes ??

What about them?
I know quite a lot about diodes, but your question is too vague.
What sort of military diodes are you talking about?
It is known that, especially older types of, germanium based diodes often
showed anomalies when they came of the production line, and most of all
when they were only just taken into production. They used to test them all
and only those that tested ok were shipped out. It happened quite regularly,
or so it is said, that during testing a diode would be found that didn't just
work as a diode but actually produced output all the time.
But that was not what they were testing for, and most were destroyed.
There are also accounts of electrical repair men from around the 50s/60s
that describe how such diodes could sometimes apparently become slightly
changed over the years of use, and some of these used diodes would
also produce output without actual input...

Then of course all diodes were originally military devices anyway, or at least all
crystal diodes. The German army developed the first germanium semiconductor
crystal diodes for use in U-boot radio/radar detectors, and the US army used
semiconductive compounds during the war and intrinsic semiconductor crystal
diodes of various types after the war. Part of the tech was stolen from the Germans
of course.

So what exactly do you mean when you say "military diodes"?

And why do you feel they are related to electrinium in any way?

Crystal diodes are well known p-n semiconductor technology.
Electrinium is not, nor clearly comparable at all.

and who are you to destroy the electrinium.pdf ?

I have not "destroyed" the pdf. It is still there. I would never "destroy" it. What nonsense.
If you mean to say who am I to think I understand better what the author of that pdf thinks
he is talking about?
Well, a person with a brain, who believes proper understanding is better than worshipping
the text some person wrote.
Rational understanding is better than belief. You can choose to believe whatever people write,
or you can understand, think about it, and see the light of reason.
Wasn't Descartes a Frenchman? I would have expected you to understand.
But really, instead of blindly assuming what the guy wrote because it sounds quite nice
and has a bit of a mystical ring to it, plus it plugs into the quasi-mystical Tesla mythology,
I compare it to the many model variations of which I know they can be very usefully applied
to work out systems of polarised material matrices with diode and-/or electret-like qualities,
and I cannot help but notice a number of inconsistencies between the two. I also know that
a lot of research has been done and knowledge has been gathered with respect to crystal
diodes, and very little to none of that supports the view as described by the author.
Anyway, your question seems to come down to "who are you to dare and give your own view
and opinion on the electrinium pdf" and that is just nonsense. who am I?
A human being, sir, with a mind and an opinion.
Is that no longer allowed in your "libert?, egalit?, fraternit?" world view?"
Must we bow down to the holy scriptures as written by peope in the past,
or may we indeed still form opinions and talk about them?
I find your standpoind a bit strange.

there is a schist, start a topic on the electrinium ? not me, i have seen enough of you

Great, so have I of you sir.
Perhaps you can get your whining butt out of my crystal cell thread then!

i will always remember to never write a PM again to try to solve a problem with a member

Then please beware not to confuse a proper discussion of a topic with a "problem" again either.
You have been causing this "problem" by accusing me and doing so in a secretive manner.
You can try to blame the wind for the fire, but it was really your spark that caused it.

not fair not fair really not fair

says the guy who unjustly accused another of dishonesty in a non-public message.
Pot calling kettle black sort of idea maybe eh?

[Drannom]

The Permanent Electrinium Battery
http://youtube.com/watch?v=sNZNoNPI3hc&feature=related
http://www.nuenergy.org/pdf/electrinium.pdf

it was in page 4, i follow this topic from the beginning and the carbon fusion closely

thank you dcarlson, it is by you that i have discover the electrinium.pdf, great reading for me

in my first message up here i was talking that hutchison found a military diode acting like an electrinium a little bit, i repeat to wonder to find such a kind of diode , it was the beginning of Hutchison, why i have to repeat what is up this page

Koen1 you have act like a baby instead of talking with me in PM, i beleive every readers of this topic can make is own though, for me it was useless from you and a very lost of our precious time

[Pirate88179]

@ Koen1:

Just keep on doing what you are doing and ignore any "complaints" from the peanut gallery.  I have always
found you to be an honorable person on any topic here and have seen you go out of your way to explain things to those that might not understand. (Myself included)  You, unlike many on here, no name mentioned to protect the guilty, are an experimenter and put your tests where your mouth is.  We need more folks on here like you that actually do, and not just talk. (or type)  My 2.5 cents. ( Due to inflation)


Bill

[clearchrome]

Something that might be of interest to testing the Xtal battery.

http://www.rexresearch.com/reid/reid.htm

[Koen1]

Thanks Bill

That reminds me, I have better things to do than waste my time repeating
what was already said and explained to persons not to be named.

Back to the lab!
Let's see what mischief the Quirk got into this time

Also, wild&crazy sideline experiment suggested by one of my friends,
and something I intentionally did not do till now but am seriously considering
to perform soon: open up a fresh alkaline D battery and get the innards out,
so basically pull out the carbon rod and the goo around it so you're left
with the zinc tube. Or at least, in most common alkaline batteries it is still
a zinc tube with a carbon rod. Anyway, then use that zinc tube instead of the
aluminium tube, fill it with cell material, etc. See how well the zinc holds out
with a few different mixtures of material.
I do not expect it to work very well as zinc should not integrate as nicely into
most of my material mixes as aluminium does... But there is a chance it does
something interesting, and I should still have a few of those large D batteries
around somewhere...
And another idea, the ferrite/magnetite revisited; basically use a material mix with
a high iron (and/or cobalt and/or nickel) content in a specifically shaped magnetic field
(radial magnetic field) while not just polarising the material but also allowing a nice
current (of an amp or so) to run through it. Basically the same idea as some time ago,
but now with a different magnetic field appllied during solidification.
Ideas ideas...