Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison

[Koen1]

@Sutra: Yes, that all accords with the info I have gathered on Tourmaline.
It is nice to have a fellow Cell builder who has detailed knowledge of this,
at least it seems that everything I have come to conclude on the chemical
structures and relations to colour and wavelength does appear to be confirmed
by your info. And indeed, the phase space for Toumaline variation is quite large.
Thanks for the links, I shall study them in detail to see if there's anything I overlooked.

As for your pizza place, I only visited Windhoek in the period 2003-2005 and although
I did have pizza there, I don't recall where we got it. Was Mister Delivery.
Anyway, if you were no longer there at the time, I can't have eaten your pizza...

Still, it's cool to discover that you lived there for a while... Don't often meet people from Windhoek.

@Jeanna: hey now that's an interesting piece of info there, about the blue-green algea and their
photosynthesis "stones"...
I had already looked into the other photosynthetic "granules" found in plants... you know,
beside the chloroplasts that contain chlorophyl, there's chromoplasts which do not have
the green chlorophyl in them but rather red and yellow pigmented substances.
I even considered the cyanos for a while but I'm not very anxious to start messing around
with cyanide compounds just yet.
As for the chloroplast structure, that does indeed seem to play a large role in the mechanism
by which the collected energy is transformed into ATP which in turn plays a large role
in the entire process of glucose formation. I have a SciAm around somewhere here in this mess
of mine that contains a few really nice (schematic) depictions of how this internal molecular
structure of the chlorophyls plays a role here... It is somewhat similar to what happens in semiconductors
in that the "packets" of energy are guided in one direction by cause of the internal structure
of the material itself, although of course the mechanism for doing so is different.
Lol I just realised that using the organic semiconductor compounds in combination with
organic compounds used in the photosynthetic process such as perhaps chlorophyl,
or perhaps simply the addition of tiny green tourmaline granules, might in fact yield
a material that "reacts" to incoming light and "produces" charge... An organic, quasi-
photosynthetic version of the Crystal Cell...

[jeanna]

... this internal molecular
structure of the chlorophyls plays a role here... It is somewhat similar to what happens in semiconductors
in that the "packets" of energy are guided in one direction by cause of the internal structure
of the material itself, although of course the mechanism for doing so is different.
Lol I just realised that using the organic semiconductor compounds in combination with
organic compounds used in the photosynthetic process such as perhaps chlorophyl,
or perhaps simply the addition of tiny green tourmaline granules, might in fact yield
a material that "reacts" to incoming light and "produces" charge... An organic, quasi-
photosynthetic version of the Crystal Cell...

oooo here we go!

I have often thought that the differences  between our earth- life chemistry and silicon is slim. Ours is carbon based which at least in a diamond is a tetrahedron of carbon molecules. Silicon will also form crystals of a similar structure. The magnetite caught my attention because of this tetrahedron...

Correct me if I am wrong, please, I don't need to go down a blind alley on this structure thing.

I was looking for more magnetism info and got myself to Tom Bearden's site (chenier).

What he says about magnetism is confusing to me since I cannot follow so many of the differential equations that support his theses, BUT, the thing I did pick up is his explanation that it is asymmetry that we are trying to achieve in producing the OU. It is  perhaps asymmetry that the chloroplasts inherently make before their molecular activities begin. They have everything they need except a bit of energy. When that is supplied in the specific form of light, (thanks to the mineral Mg) the energy conversion process begins.

I will refrain from producing a scanned pic of my old text with the Krebs cycle drawn in., because, I guess what we are attempting IS as you say a silicon based cell inspired by the carbon based cycle of energy.

Now, if this helps, I will add,

In the Krebs cycle, sunlight, CO₂, and water combine to produce the glucose that can be used and stored by the body of the plant for immediate or later use. It does this with the help of enzymes that work within a temperature boundary. All of it uses carbon molecules for its purpose. That utterly brilliant mechanism is not what we need to replicate, however, and, as you point out, we do have much of what we are looking for.

Perhaps we are putting all of it together too much. I mean, maybe we need to leave OUT something so that when the environment provides it, it can produce electricity.

or
Perhaps we should be careful not to combine Si mineral cells with C mineral cells? maybe they don't "fit" together too well.


Who knows, maybe we will end up making a new form of solar cell, instead of Hi band radio wave cell?? (Or, maybe the simple warmth of a hand will give a rochelle salt based cell enough energy to start it up?)

Now that I am getting too far gone for even me, I will stop. 

Except to say it seems the green tourmaline sounds like a very good choice in a crystal cell.

Now, where am I going to find THAT already ground for me!! 

jeanna

[Pirate88179]

Jeanna:

I am impressed!  I knew your biology degree and experience would come in handy here some day.  I just watched a video on metacafe about plankton that you can grow in your house to make blue light whenever you want it.  You have to agitate them to get them to light up but once shaken, the blue light is very bright and cool looking.  They are doing this, of course, on the molecular level.  Why we can't figure this out, as humans, is beyond me.

Bill

[ian middleton]

Brilliant guys, just brilliant.

Do you realize I've spent the whole morning wiring up a cabbage and now the carrots have done a runner. 

@Bill:  got to get me some of that plankton, can you help ?  If it doen't work I could always ferment it and make luminous beer. ( lite beer)

@jeanna: how much tourmaline would you like ground? 

Now wheres that artichoke.

Ian

[Koen1]

@Bill: I brought some "OceanBlue" (ltd) Bioluminescent packs
home with me from my trip to the Geneva inventors expo.
May be the same microorganisms you speak of?
I got them from the "inventor" and creator of the packs,
who is trying to market them as eco-friendly, safe, biological
emergency lighting packs.
The bacteria he used are common photobacterium strains collected
from North Sea and Atlantic water, mixed with some nutrients in a
salt water solution and sealed in a plastic bag.
When it is very dark and you hold the bag in front of a white piece
of paper, they do produce quite some visible light blue light.
But it is not enough to read with, and when there's stray light
("light pollution" from street lamps etc) you hardly see them glow at all.
And they die when the nutrients run out.

I managed to get the surviving bacteria in one of the packs to multiply
in a homemade solution of nutrients (sugar) and the right salt concentration,
and I managed to keep the glowing jar alive for another month or so,
but after that they just died. Must have done something wrong with the
nutrient or salt concentration.

I have also looked at jellyfish (sea wasps) with bioluminescent properties,
but it seems that all bioluminescent marine creatures only emit extremely
low levels of light which are well visible in absolute darkness, but difficult
to see in the low levels of illumination that we humans tend to call "dark" already.

If you (or anyone else here) have examples of bioluminescent organisms that do
emit large amounts of light so as to be usefull for reading for example, I would
love to hear about it.