Crystal Power CeLL by John Hutchison

[ian middleton]

G'day all,

Bill.  It did cross my mind about making a solar heated array from these cells. I've had the 19-2010 cell at a constant temperature of 58.5 oC ( 137.3F) for 24 hours now and it's output current hasn't budged from 442uA ( 0.44mA).  I will increase the temperature later today and see how it goes. To early to say with the few data points I have whether or not the current rise is linear with increasing temp.

The next step of course is to go back and look at all the past cells ( 428) to see if they have the same characteristics. That will be a job and a half.

Here is the listing for this cell:
0.25g copper oxide (black)
6.5g   pumice
6.5g   tourmaline
4.0g   iron pyrites
1.2g   iron oxide  (red)
15g    sodium carbonate

Crush everything to a fine powder (wear face mask). Add water to make a thin paste and then cook the crap out of it for 3 hours. Notice that no sodium silicate was used.
The chemical reaction during cooking produces the silicate.
Standard Al tube but used a 3mm silver brazing rod for the +ve.
This cell needed time to dry and set so be patient.

I'll be back soon with an update.
Cheers
Ian

[maw2432]

any one see this Bloom box?  Sorry if off topic.   Was on 60 minutes sunday.

"Those two blocks can power the average high-consumption American home -- one block can power the average European home. At least that's the claim being made by K.R. Sridhar, founder of Bloom Energy, on 60 Minutes last night. The original technology comes from an oxygen generator meant for a scrapped NASA Mars program that's been converted, with the help of an estimated $400 million in private funding, into a fuel cell. Bloom's design feeds oxygen into one side of a cell while fuel (natural gas, bio gas from landfill waste, solar, etc) is supplied to the other side to provide the chemical reaction required for power. The cells themselves are inexpensive ceramic disks painted with a secret green "ink" on one side and a black "ink" on the other. The disks are separated by a cheap metal alloy, instead of more precious metals like platinum, and stacked into a cube of varying capabilities -- a stack of 64 can power a small business like Starbucks.

Now get this, skeptics: there are already several corporate customers using refrigerator-sized Bloom Boxes. The corporate-sized cells cost $700,000 to $800,000 and are installed at 20 customers you've already heard of including FedEx and Wal-mart -- Google was first to this green energy party, using its Bloom Boxes to power a data center for the last 18 months. Ebay has installed its boxes on the front lawn of its San Jose location. It estimates to receive almost 15% of its energy needs from Bloom, saving about $100,000 since installing its five boxes 9 months ago -- an estimate we assume doesn't factor in the millions Ebay paid for the boxes themselves. Bloom makes about one box a day at the moment and believes that within 5 to 10 years it can drive down the cost to about $3,000 to make it suitable for home use. Sounds awfully aggressive to us. Nevertheless, Bloom Energy will go public with details on Wednesday -- until then, check the 60 Minutes sneak peek after the break."

[das aloda bullspit]

@all

you guys dont mind if i try some of the mixtures from earlier on in the thread ive found that some of them have uorked uell for me and  i uould like to try them for myself keep up all the good uork every body the gallium germanium rochelle salt pyrite and it variants sound interesting im going to try some like ians and jeannas and others as i have uorked toolong on just silicate cells and i feel i have reached thehighest point in those and not just that but id like a change from those cells i have over 50 cells that uork uell but they are massive and some small ones that are more pouerfull than the big ones and some that are small voltage uise but still uork they uere allmade in the same uay to get out as mutch moisture as possible i sealed them uhilst still in the dehumidifying box ith ater free solvents epoxies

@ian

have you tried holding one of your nrochelle silicate cells to a scource of static electricity ie a tv to see if it increases? has anything interesting happened uith the cell is it electrostaticlay pouered? uat types are there ie piezo'pyro'microuaves(mine) ect and uat are ue aiming forin our pouer cells uat should ue be looking out for?
   

[das aloda bullspit]

I uonder uat happened to those other guys? they all just semmed to have stopped posting and uats the deal uith the raving madman on page 61-62 is he fo real?

[das aloda bullspit]

uat about your cement plaster of paris cells are they still uorking and are they a real crystal battery or galvanic uat does the analysis sho up against normal batteries uat do you think is happening ie petro electric reactions ect ect in those particular types of battery? can u give me some tips to louer galvanuc reactions in these batteries and also uat materials can you use to louer galvanic effects in these cells