i give up

[christo4_99]

due to a conspiracy i decided to delete the thread

[Omnibus]

Evidently none of them were actual because we are not using such devices

The fact that we're not using them is absolutely no evidence that they were not actual. Such devices and their implementation has been suppressed because they do not enhance business but their effect is quite the opposite. Only devices And practices allowing for business applications have been promoted throughout history.

[christo4_99]

I see your argument but this thread is not about suppression of invention...it is about p.m. itself.we are not using p.m. devices because no one has produces one that moves on it's own much less perform work evidently besides Bessler.If you choose to argue your case please state case in point.So,i beg to differ with you in this case although you are correct in other cases.

[Omnibus]

I see your argument but this thread is not about suppression of invention...it is about p.m. itself.we are not using p.m. devices because no one has produces one that moves on it's own much less perform work evidently besides Bessler.If you choose to argue your case please state case in point.So,i beg to differ with you in this case although you are correct in other cases.

You're not privy to any of this so don't make it sound you know that noone has produced one that moves on it's own much less produce work.

[christo4_99]

You're not privy to any of this so don't make it sound you know that noone has produced one that moves on it's own much less produce work.

i hate when someone chimes in,off subject,doesn't try to contribute and just wants to argue...what's your motives dude?think about it.