Relative Permittivity of Water

[onthecuttingedge2005]

these people refuse to believe in the laws of physics no matter how much they fail in any of their projects. everyone of their projects is a failure period.

over unity, where is all the projects proven to the world without a doubt, there is none and will be none. over unity can not even be achieved with anti-matter to matter reactions due to neutrinos. there is no over unity.

it's a pipe dream and will remain to be a bait to all those whole follow it.

Jerry

[Torana]

Unity ? how about this....
theoretical speed of light = 299,792,458 Metres sec
permittivity of free space = 8.854 x 10 -12
permeability of free space = 1.2566371 x 10 -6          (4 x pi)

C squared   x   permittivity (electro)   x    permeability (mag)  =  1  , unity   
...yea its text book ...anyhoo

It might look like I launched an attack on all things stan meyer but thats not the case at all.
Thru the years I havent seen anyone step out of line over stans info , its completely unbalanced view where no one dares to question the sacred scrolls of stan meyers.
Theres 50 (32 + 18) formulas /equations(?) in the Tech Brief , 15 are completely BOGUS , thats
30 % ! .... SURELY thats enough to set alarm bells ringing.

BOGUS CIRCUIT DRAWINGS ARE ALSO A FINANCIAL DETERRENT = EXPENSIVE DOOR STOPS / PAPER WIEGHTS OR WHITE ELEPHANTS....EVENTUALLY.

Research requires ground work to double check formulas ,theory and any references in order to find a foundation but if that is not there ,its all over...NO MONEY SPENT. (YAY)

**Theres only 1 video segment that stands out and can be seen as clear evidence , thats his early bench top display showing the presure gauge climbing which also means theres increasing presure on the rising bubbles.
Theres 2 possibilities at that rate ,= Gas or steam , steam shows condensation that cant be hidden.
If there was V and I readings that segment would be rock solid ,theres no electrolyte or gas processor.

Stan said " you have to ask the right question"
Most obvious question should be 1# ; After spending $1,000,000 on patents , why would stan give away the circuit for $35 ? ? ?
He wouldnt show Eugene Mallove or Walter Rosenthal anything so what value is stans info to anyone if it was of no use to these 2 genuine researchers .
Walter Rosenthal was a leading test engineer.

A report from either of these men would be reliable and complete , the Dublin report and International Independent report are SHOCKING with no content and absolute rubbish, compiled by stan himself ! Independent ?

Another good trick stan utilised was Auto Suggestion.. k.i.s.s = keep(56) it(22) simple(72-A) stupid(AA) dont(46) think(22-A) for (44) yourself(77) and(41) dont(23) step(A1) out(A2) of(57) line(F_1) you(F-2) might(45) give(35usc) the(101) game(78) away(9-11)

[Torana]

Here we go again..(got another one)
@ ALL..
nowhere have I said his invention didnt work
nowhere have I said it cant be done or impossible
nowhere have I discouraged anyone directly or indirectly
I was told I was misleading and putting personal theories forward , everything is text book and using other peoples data so that it is beyond my control and cant be manipulated**

IF it irritates people to see stans info hacked open...thats a GOOD thing, its called waking up.
Whats wrong with doing an HONEST UNBIASED breakdown of stan meyers info ? ? ?
who does it hurt ? and WHY ?

http://www.free-energy-info.com/P8.pdf

Anyone seeking truth and hidden secrets in stans Tech Brief have to face the facts...there aren't the kindve secrets people would hope for.
THE TRUTH INDICATES DELIBERATE INTENTIONAL DECEPTION.
I put forward plenty of examples to chew on ,instead of pointing the finger at me have a go at stan meyers....what have I done ? ? ?

EQ 6 ,7 ,9 ,14 ,17 ,19 ,21 ,28 ,29   ,  have a GO

GASOLINE C10 H8....= NAPHTHALENE , moth balls ..classic.
How can people NOT see that one ? ?
These are examples of stans secrets hidden in his info.
It is only FAIR that I show stans info as an example of MISINFO for those who dont know what misinfo looks like.

As for sacrifice , what did he sacrifice ? ....in hind sight , his country, the environment + people ,good thing he didnt have kids or he'd sacrifice them too.
He was not a messiah or savior, it makes no difference if hes alive or dead, he did not give away his circuit, info or product and NEVER would, thats not good bussiness, bussiness is TRANSACTION.
Stephen meyers is still alive , does it make any difference?  HE could
stephen Horvath is still alive, does it make any difference?  HE could
Stan Meyers WAS alive , DID HE MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE? ? HE COULD HAVE

Stan meyers as a "christian" is irrelevant,, "jesus is lord" is irrelevant, stan was a bussinessman, that is relevant to money and people as customers not brothers and sisters or Gods lil' flock
A bussinessman can not betray his own Nature = Bussiness -before- man.

People need to read his info without being so biased and prejudice. Look beyond the "jesus is lord" and "God I love my country"
READ FIRST , then judge...evaluate...you might be surprised and find clarity.   

[Torana]

Next Im going to reach into my old pile of crap and pull out stans 1989 NZ house meeting,  its on VHS and from the 90s so it wont have - time of quote - written next to anything.

I tried to find a link on youtube , couldnt find anything any where . So this ones for the cave men out there , ..power to ya.

Theres no way Im going to transcribe this damn thing , I have very little interest in its contents but from memory theres a few swifties in there , Ol stan doing the shifty, straight as a dogs hind leg he was.

Second thoughts , the box is even too ugly, I cant face this thing , it can wait till tomorrow.....

It hasnt got copy right written on it either .. oh yay what gold..

[Torana]

Quotes of stan meyers NOT ME **
This has not been fun at all , Ive only done some obvious bits in the first 1/3 of the tape , stuff the rest.

According to stan ,
Patent office = "why has no one else thought about this technology before?"

stan = " ..but here to fore (?) anyone EVER dreamed of using potential energy to form a voltage to perform work in order to pull apart the water molecule"

Making these claims is dismissive to previous inventors, their work and actual inventions.
Does that imply that Horvath and Puharich had plain ol electrolysis ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selden_patent

The Selden patent did the same thing with road locomotives
Bell labs did the same thing with the transistor
Points to one thing ,  MONOPOLY and Market Domination

Resistive choke discussion;..resistive wire etc

Stan; " in filing of patents , I* filed them in several ways -"then he says I use it this way"... you have a hard time*  getting around me because not only have I filed patents on the particular technology but I filed patents on all its related areas to give me a technological buffer zone to be able to ensure that I* can bring the technology in"
(**Stan;" it wont be Stan Meyers to bring it it" -1997 Denver)

"well sorry folks I got it both ways"
"and if you look at all OUR (?) patents , you apply voltage across that water molecule youve violated my patent rights"

That sounds alot like the MONSANTO attitude towards nature, very christian. It also indicates the Monopoly bussiness mind.
The Tech Brief is Stans technological buffer zone to keep replicators going in circles, which is demonstrated year after year.