Captret - Capacitor and Electret

[Cherryman]

Hey guys, just a quick hello and  thanks to ibpointless2 for sharing his findings with his captret idea.......
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Led still at the same light intensity (hurt your eyes bright) batteries cold to the touch. Led not giving off any heat ...

Thanks for reading, have a great easter

You have a small solar panel laying around?  It would be interesting to see if you get any good voltage out of the bright led with your setup. 

Happy easter and experimenting.

[Rydan]

I do have a small 2v 200ma solar panel and did try to see wat I could get out. unfortunately I could only get around 0.2v from it.
The panel's glass is not flat which probably isn't helping either. I'm hoping to get enough lights going in a formation that I can sit a panel on and power something else off it.

Update on other experiment. (2 captret setup) - Left running 20 hours.
starting voltage 2.85v - End voltage 2.83v.
I am still running this setup, however I have now added a 3rd capacitor to see what happens. starting from 2.83v

Just for interest I have a brand new 6v Lantern Battery I recently purchased which reads 6.53v
I thought it would be nice to have a control, so I grabbed another one (as in an identical one from a pack I bought) of my super bright LED's and just connected it to the battery.

Here's some results

3 cap captret started @ 10:10am reading 2.83v
control led on 6v battery directly connected started @10:45am reading 6.53v

Took a test of both @ 11:18am
3 cap captret steady @ 2.83v after 1h and 8 min run time
control setup battery down to 6.29v after 33min run time.

To be fair, I'd say that the control LED was probably a little brighter than the captret setup for the first 5min, but after that time was not as bright as the captret setup. (Keep in mind that both LED's both very bright though)
Differences - control LED was exhibiting a blue glow. The LED was very hot to the touch - close to burn my fingers hot.

3 Cap setup LED was brighter - it did not diminish in intensity at all. LED was exhibiting a white glow. The LED was luke warm. minimal warmth coming from touching the LED.

Well, definately other things going on there. that's it from me for now. More experimenting ...

[schuler]

  Hello.

I've played with captrets for a week now. it seems to me it's a 3 plate capacitor. But I don't understand exactly what is going on.

I was able to verify the "memory effect" reported in the CAPTRET (after using a capacitor as CAPTRET, it self recharges quickly). Self recharging is surprisingly strong. But if you plug a load to use the memory effect as power source, it vanishes after some hours. It's very interesting.

A capacitor shouldn't conduct DC. But when plugging a LED to a CAPTRET like circuit, my multi-test can measure current flowing from the battery's negative to the capacitor's shell. But if it's a 3 plate capacitor, I shouldn't have any DC current!!!

It might be a problem in my measurement device (multi-test). I suspect it works using voltage potentials and not really current. I don't know.

My question is: how can current flow from the battery's negative to the CAPTRET's shell?

Please continue your excellent work. 

[Tito L. Oracion]

The third plate is actually an energy at the outside effect of the two energized plate, since one plate is always not i use so it always make the other one plate to complete number of electrons by pulling at the outside and at the same time make a flow at the third plate. 

It always makes pulling effect to sustain the other plate and make flow to the third plate.

conclusion: FREE ENERGY 

[schuler]

Hi Tito.

Thank you for your reply.

The current I get flowing out from the battery is exactly the same that flows into the LED. I've got 2 multimeters to verify and the current flows up and down at the very same time at the very same number.

It seems to me that, instead of reducing voltage, the captret reduces current keeping voltage. That's why it works so well with so called "dead batteries". By the way, captrets are giving new life to dead batteries. I found myself searching for dead batteries. It is of great importance if you can give a new usage to so called "dead batteries". It's economically and environmentally friendly. I would suggest commercial use of captret in flash lights because it efficiently uses dead batteries.

Getting back to the subject, because I see the same current from the battery and into the LED, I'm not seeing free energy nor free electrons. It seems that the external shell some how is connected to internal shells through a resistor. And I'm seeing a voltage drop across the capacitor like a diode would do. I'm not quite sure if I understand what you've written in your last post. In the case you can detail, please do.

Do you know what causes the memory effect? I was able to get both positive and negative "memory" behaviours.