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Water battery with similar metals?

Started by ibpointless2, October 25, 2010, 07:13:46 PM

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ibpointless2

I don't think my Water captret is really a water captret, but it does show some capacitor and electret effect it just i don't want to confuse people with names. I name things the way i see it, and the water captret is just water and it acts like a capacitor and a electret so the name might stick. But for the record the water captret and the regular captret are two different thing that happen to be very same, if that makes any sense.

As for the water captret it also seems to be a water battery, well, it's more water battery than any water battery out their. I say this because it seems it might be consuming the water as a power source, the water is being transformed into hydrogen and oxygen from what i'm seeing. And unlike a normal water battery where it has two dissimilar metals and one of the metals is consumed this water captret has the same metals and still produce power without consuming the metals themselves.

So in-fact the water captret are merely batteries, when used produce hydrogen. So that voltage amiplication i was seeing in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGQmHY0ervQ was merely do to the fact that the water captret is a battery that was put in series to give me more voltage. So if you think this who experiment is a bust, you're forgetting that in order to have a water battery you needed two dissimilar metals but yet the water captret is the same metals that use regular old tap water- this is amazing.

The water captrets can be used by them selfs as batteries and they can be hooked in parallel and charge a capacitor too. when you do use them bubbles start to form on the pates and i believe they're hydrogen and oxygen bubbles. Whats even more crazy is that you can short the water captret out and bubbles will start form, so even when shorted its producing power. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITf0zNdNK0M
its crazy to think that you can make hydrogen without any power needed.

So this is what i've seen so far, its easy to copy this experiment and cheap too so please do try yourself.

billmehess

Quote from: ibpointless2 on December 28, 2010, 08:59:31 AM
I don't see why it shouldn't but i'm going to need more than a diode, maybe a joule thief. and also more of the caps need to be in series inorder to get something of that nature.
This will not charge the battery. Your cap (by the way what is the value of the cap) will simply discharge into the battery. Since the cap.value is most likley low there will be no effect on the battery. If you charge up a line of caps in series that will decrease the total cap. even more.
You are looking at voltage in vs voltage out , this can be extremely misleading. You need to look at power in (watts) vs power out (watts). Consider a Van De Graff generator. A 12 volt power supply can produce 100's of thousand of volts out put the current is in the micro or pico range.
In these types of batteries its all about amperage not so much voltage.
Keep experimenting though- good for you!

ibpointless2

Now i'm getting somewhere with this water captret "water battery" idea.

For a long time i couldn't piece it together as to why it was working the way it does, i could not figure out how to get more voltage out of it. Now i've figured it out.

To get more voltage and have the water captret run at its best performance is very simple. The big piece of aluminium needs to big but very THIN. The littler piece of aluminum needs to be small but really THICK.

Before with my normal setup i could get around .100 volts. Now with a big Thin piece and a Thick little piece I seen voltages as high as .500 volts.

So there you have it, Its about thickness and size and the right combo gives you good voltage.

billmehess

Here is an interesting experiment you can try. See how long it takes to charge up your cap.
Go ahead and put together a quick water battery with copper and zink or a galvanized plate and compare the charging rates of both of them. The speed of the cap. charge is directly related to the amperage from the charging device. A good cap to use is a 4700mf 25v electolytic. Give it a try you will  learn a lot.

ibpointless2

Quote from: billmehess on December 28, 2010, 05:34:47 PM
Here is an interesting experiment you can try. See how long it takes to charge up your cap.
Go ahead and put together a quick water battery with copper and zink or a galvanized plate and compare the charging rates of both of them. The speed of the cap. charge is directly related to the amperage from the charging device. A good cap to use is a 4700mf 25v electolytic. Give it a try you will  learn a lot.

I don't make water batteries the way you described, I don't use copper or zink or any dissimilar metals. My Water batteries use only Aluminum foil for both plates.