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How does Perendev's motor work?

Started by nightwynd, May 07, 2006, 09:32:27 AM

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Joh70

...isn't it that they are not able to scale it to lead out significant power in Kilowatt-range. I know somebody, which has seen a running motor from Perendev not on a show but even in an personal audience in the office of perendev inventor. yes they are self-running. but these spectacular announced motors stop when they have to do real usefull work. the magnetic-effect is not controlled properly under load. so more investigation has to be done. maybe i am wrong.

an other possibility is, that they are got too anxious about illegal copying the device, which crashes buisness before getting back huge investments. or they supressed...

Low-Q

Permanent magnets can't do work! How hard is it to understand this? Any patent on the subject will forever just be a patent, and not a working device. Any attemt to make OU out of magnets ends up in lack of money ("Please donate us a lot of money so you can save the world from pollution - and make us very rich"), or the project was destroied by a little boy and it cannot be rebuilt - strange how parts and ideas dissappears with the destruction of a "working" model.

Well, that said. Never mind my opinion, but the only thing OU here is the HOPE.

Br.

Vidar

Liberty

Quote from: Low-Q on October 28, 2008, 06:46:56 AM
Permanent magnets can't do work! How hard is it to understand this? Any patent on the subject will forever just be a patent, and not a working device. Any attemt to make OU out of magnets ends up in lack of money ("Please donate us a lot of money so you can save the world from pollution - and make us very rich"), or the project was destroied by a little boy and it cannot be rebuilt - strange how parts and ideas dissappears with the destruction of a "working" model.

Well, that said. Never mind my opinion, but the only thing OU here is the HOPE.

Br.

Vidar

In my opinion, the design of a magnet motor determines whether work can be done or not.  If a motor uses it's strength to "plow" through opposing magnetic fields, it will take most all of the torque out of the motor and the end result is that it can do no work, even if it can spin (the null output that physics plainly shows).  I have measured torque output from my versions of power assisted motors.  They run with magnets in the rotor and stator and use a speaker that is power assisted.  A considerable amount of the output torque comes directly from magnets.
Liberty

"Converting Magnetic Force Into Motion"
Liberty Permanent Magnet Motor

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Perendev's motor doesn't work, of course. It seems readily apparent that his device makes use of these fields like mechanical springs.  The fields compress and expand producing a net drag. 

However, his device, like that of a fair number of other PM motor researchers, seems to be pointing the way toward a breakthrough roughly analogous to Griggs' hydrosonic pump.

Of course the more exciting breakthroughs are taking place on the nano scale:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGGC-1g4S3Y


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Low-Q

Quote from: Liberty on October 28, 2008, 07:33:11 AM
In my opinion, the design of a magnet motor determines whether work can be done or not.  If a motor uses it's strength to "plow" through opposing magnetic fields, it will take most all of the torque out of the motor and the end result is that it can do no work, even if it can spin (the null output that physics plainly shows).  I have measured torque output from my versions of power assisted motors.  They run with magnets in the rotor and stator and use a speaker that is power assisted.  A considerable amount of the output torque comes directly from magnets.
You don't get out more energy than you put in. As you say, you assist the magnets with a speaker driver, then ofcourse more magnets will increase the efficiency. A loudspeaker for home use have a typical efficiency of 1 - 5%, at most 30 - 40% of extremely high sensitivity speakers for PA use.
Anyway, magnets cannot provide energy, but they can provide greater kick and pull if assisted with electromagnets - like an electric motor utilize the magnets. If you quit the powersource, your engine will stop, so then where did the extra energy from the magnets go?

Many opinions regarding magnets. Regardless of that, they cannot do work without external energy manipulation - energy we all have to pay for.

Br.

Vidar